Thanks, Marty. I am having no great emotional upheaval over quitting Gleevec. 
Whatever will be, will be, and everything is a learning experience. It just 
feels strange after 14+ years.
In other news, Monday a new platelet dr. decided to do a BMB. You won't believe 
this: It took him FOUR tries to get a viable sample. Never had this happen 
before. Four crunching entries. Sort of like having four BMB's at the same 
time. Afterwards I was almost in a state of shock and could not stand, 
nauseous, very stressed. (In Canada we do not get sedation or morphine for this 
procedure.) It took me 90 minutes to de-stress and had to drive myself home 
because he had not warned me that he intended to do this and to bring a driver 
along. There's one doctor who will NOT be doing another BMB on me!! I think he 
needs a few more lessons in how to do it.
Anyway, I am fine....still low platelets. Life goes on.....Angie
       From: Marty Gartenberg <wa2...@gmail.com>
 To: cmlhope@googlegroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 7:29 AM
 Subject: Re: [CMLHope] Stopping Gleevec
   
Hi Angie,
You are not thee only one that has stopped your TKI and felt that way. 
sometimes something that we take as far as any TKI's ends up being a crutch for 
us and we always seem to worry if this or that will come back to haunt us. It 
is a normal human response and we worry about it.
Angie, since your really feeling better without the Gleevec then you should 
learn to live your life in the best way that you can.
I have seen this many times before. A man that both Zavie and I knew was on 
Alpha Interferon and suffered immensely from it's horrible side effects. He 
suffered for many years and when he was finally PCRU everyone told him to stop 
using it anymore but he still continued still suffering because it had become a 
crutch for him. He had the same feelings as you now have and after a lot of 
coaching from everyone he finally stopped it. 
He has been off of it for many years and no reoccurrence of CML ever came back 
to him. His system finally "burned out" his CML.
Remember that everything in life has a double edged soared. If you do something 
will it come back to haunt you or if you don't do something will it come back 
to haunt you??
I just can't live my life that way, and if something does come back then I will 
deal with it.Remember me telling everyone that Leukemia is both a disease of 
not only the body but it also poisons the mind.
Angie, why not start writing a diary and put everything in there that you have 
gone through the day? I do it and it lets me reflect about what I could have 
done better or worse during the day. I call it my frustrations and how to deal 
with them, and it really works for me as I am sure it will also work for you or 
anyone else. By the way I see that Giora sent you his response. read it if you 
haven't as yet.
Here is something called "expect the best" Please read it and it will also help 
you with yourself.
One last thing. I am not a doctor but have gone through a lot of things in my 
life health wise as you already know. Have you ever wondered why I am still 
alive? I did at one time but maybe it is because I try helping others as a 
promise that I once made to GOD and also received help myself from others. It 
is a two way street, or I am the luckiest son of a bitch on this planet ???18's,
Marty 
   EXPECT THE BEST, MINDOVER MATTER. SUCCESS IS A FUNCTION OF SELF CONFIDENCE. 
TO HAVE SUCCESS ATANYTHING YOU MUST FIRST LEARN TO BELIEVE IN YOURSELF. IF YOU 
EXPECT THE WORSETHEN THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT YOU WILL GET (MIND OVER MATTER) IF 
YOU EXPECT THEBEST THEN THAT IS WHAT YOU WILL GET.WHAT WE HAVE TO LEARNTO DO IS 
TO CHANGE OUR MENTAL HABITS, OUR STATES OF MIND. LEARN TO EXPECT ANDNOT TO 
DOUBT. BY DOING THIS YOU BRING EVERYTHING INTO THE REALM OF POSSIBILITY.WHEN 
YOU LEARN TO BELIEVE THEN WHAT YOU THOUGHT TO BE IMPOSSIBLE THEN MOVESINTO THE 
AREA OF POSSIBILITY.EVERY GREAT THINGEVENTUALLY BECOMES POSSIBLE FOR YOU. MY 
BELIEF AT THE BEGINNING OF A DOUBTFULUNDERTAKING IS THE ONE THING THAT INSURES 
THE SUCCESSFUL OUTCOME...FOCUS... 18's,Marty


On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 9:02 PM, ANGELYN ESDERS <esd...@rogers.com> wrote:

I just received an email from my oncologist telling me that it is safe for me 
to stop Gleevec for 3 months.I started Gleevec in January 2001, and reached 
cytogenic remission in July 2001. I've continued on 300mg per day.I was in the 
study for 12  years.I feel like it is my safety net between wellness and 
reoccurrence of CML.I am almost afraid to stop it. I no longer have any side 
effects from it.Who has stopped Gleevec, and what have you experienced as a 
result of doing so?Thanking you all for your input...Angie in Canada-- 
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