Great video Marty.  
Thanks 

My Motto: Faith and Pills
Jeanie 🐟🐟18,s 
Dx 1/2004. CML Leukemia
Started Gleevec 2/2004
Started Tasigna  9/2009
Started Sprycel 11/2009
Started Ponatinib January 2015
Dr Balducci Moffitt Cancer Center

> On Aug 10, 2015, at 10:24 AM, Marty Gartenberg <wa2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Dear Angie, and everyone else for that matter.
> 
> Please don't ever be disappointed in whatever your problems may be. I have 
> said this time and time again, and you know what? Just look at what happened 
> to me. 
> 
> Now I don't profess to be a man of "9 lives" but only to be a human being 
> that has been through a great deal but I just take everything in stride one 
> day at a time and have been doing this until now for the past 71 years.
> 
>  And I guess that I must know what I am talking about, or hopefully I do? Of 
> course not since I was a child, but the was the time for having fun and 
> growing up, and to see what everyone around me was teaching me.
> 
> You know what, things haven't really changed that much because life is a 
> learning experience 
> 
> I have seen many things in my life, but there is and has been something in my 
> life as of age 45 years old/young? And that is I just know that there WILL be 
> a cure for Leukemia!!! You just have to sit down and keep this in your minds.
> 
> I would like you to see something that "tugs" at me heart strings and 
> basically has little to do with Leukemia but has a lot of things to do with 
> two events that I had to do through in my life, and after these I sill am 
> living proof that so far I have survived. And by the way so far. so have you.
> 
> This video has brought some tears as well as some joy to myself. It just 
> shows what one human can do for each other, and then for good luck add in a 
> dog. Yes GOD has a way of sorting in a dog, if you so should spell dog 
> backwards it comes up with GOD. I always wondered about that.
> 
> www.youtube.com/watch?v=mz2kDH0MCn4
> 
> 18's,
> 
> Marty
>  
> 
>  
> 
>> On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 11:48 AM, 'Icandoallttc' via CMLHope 
>> <cmlhope@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>> Not every one gets to pcr on tkis.  I never did on gleevec.   It quit on me 
>> instead of me quitting.  
>> I finally reached pcr on sprycel.   If you do quit keep a close check on 
>> your counts. 
>> Remember there are more tkis you can take if you have problems on down the 
>> line. 
>> I am now on the newest one out.  
>> Live each day for that day and enjoy it to its fullest. I have been taking 
>> tkis for 11 years as of last January and I'm still here. 
>> 
>> 
>> Prayers & Blessings Jeanie 🐟🐟18,s
>> Dx 1/2004
>> Started Gleevec 2/2004
>> Started Tasigna  9/2009
>> Started Sprycel 11/2009
>> Started Ponatinib January 2015
>> Dr Balducci Moffitt Cancer Center
>> 
>>> On Jun 17, 2015, at 8:35 AM, ANGELYN ESDERS <esd...@rogers.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks, Marty. I am having no great emotional upheaval over quitting 
>>> Gleevec. Whatever will be, will be, and everything is a learning 
>>> experience. It just feels strange after 14+ years.
>>> 
>>> In other news, Monday a new platelet dr. decided to do a BMB.
>>> You won't believe this: It took him FOUR tries to get a viable sample. 
>>> Never had this happen before. Four crunching entries.
>>> Sort of like having four BMB's at the same time. Afterwards I was almost in 
>>> a state of shock and could not stand, nauseous, very stressed. (In Canada 
>>> we do not get sedation or morphine for this procedure.) It took me 90 
>>> minutes to de-stress and had to drive myself home because he had not warned 
>>> me that he intended to do this and to bring a driver along. There's one 
>>> doctor who will NOT be doing another BMB on me!! I think he needs a few 
>>> more lessons in how to do it.
>>> 
>>> Anyway, I am fine....still low platelets. Life goes on.....
>>> Angie
>>> 
>>>  
>>> From: Marty Gartenberg <wa2...@gmail.com>
>>> To: cmlhope@googlegroups.com 
>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 7:29 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [CMLHope] Stopping Gleevec
>>> 
>>> Hi Angie,
>>> 
>>> You are not thee only one that has stopped your TKI and felt that way. 
>>> sometimes something that we take as far as any TKI's ends up being a crutch 
>>> for us and we always seem to worry if this or that will come back to haunt 
>>> us. It is a normal human response and we worry about it.
>>> 
>>> Angie, since your really feeling better without the Gleevec then you should 
>>> learn to live your life in the best way that you can.
>>> 
>>> I have seen this many times before. A man that both Zavie and I knew was on 
>>> Alpha Interferon and suffered immensely from it's horrible side effects. He 
>>> suffered for many years and when he was finally PCRU everyone told him to 
>>> stop using it anymore but he still continued still suffering because it had 
>>> become a crutch for him. He had the same feelings as you now have and after 
>>> a lot of coaching from everyone he finally stopped it. 
>>> 
>>> He has been off of it for many years and no reoccurrence of CML ever came 
>>> back to him. His system finally "burned out" his CML.
>>> 
>>> Remember that everything in life has a double edged soared. If you do 
>>> something will it come back to haunt you or if you don't do something will 
>>> it come back to haunt you??
>>> 
>>> I just can't live my life that way, and if something does come back then I 
>>> will deal with it.
>>> Remember me telling everyone that Leukemia is both a disease of not only 
>>> the body but it also poisons the mind.
>>> 
>>> Angie, why not start writing a diary and put everything in there that you 
>>> have gone through the day? I do it and it lets me reflect about what I 
>>> could have done better or worse during the day. I call it my frustrations 
>>> and how to deal with them, and it really works for me as I am sure it will 
>>> also work for you or anyone else. By the way I see that Giora sent you his 
>>> response. read it if you haven't as yet.
>>> 
>>> Here is something called "expect the best" Please read it and it will also 
>>> help you with yourself.
>>> 
>>> One last thing. I am not a doctor but have gone through a lot of things in 
>>> my life health wise as you already know. Have you ever wondered why I am 
>>> still alive? I did at one time but maybe it is because I try helping others 
>>> as a promise that I once made to GOD and also received help myself from 
>>> others. It is a two way street, or I am the luckiest son of a bitch on this 
>>> planet ???
>>> 18's,
>>> 
>>> Marty 
>>> 
>>>    
>>> EXPECT THE BEST, MIND OVER MATTER. SUCCESS IS A FUNCTION OF SELF 
>>> CONFIDENCE. TO HAVE SUCCESS AT ANYTHING YOU MUST FIRST LEARN TO BELIEVE IN 
>>> YOURSELF. IF YOU EXPECT THE WORSE THEN THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT YOU WILL GET 
>>> (MIND OVER MATTER) IF YOU EXPECT THE BEST THEN THAT IS WHAT YOU WILL GET.
>>> WHAT WE HAVE TO LEARN TO DO IS TO CHANGE OUR MENTAL HABITS, OUR STATES OF 
>>> MIND. LEARN TO EXPECT AND NOT TO DOUBT. BY DOING THIS YOU BRING EVERYTHING 
>>> INTO THE REALM OF POSSIBILITY. WHEN YOU LEARN TO BELIEVE THEN WHAT YOU 
>>> THOUGHT TO BE IMPOSSIBLE THEN MOVES INTO THE AREA OF POSSIBILITY.
>>> EVERY GREAT THING EVENTUALLY BECOMES POSSIBLE FOR YOU. MY BELIEF AT THE 
>>> BEGINNING OF A DOUBTFUL UNDERTAKING IS THE ONE THING THAT INSURES THE 
>>> SUCCESSFUL OUTCOME...
>>> FOCUS...
>>>  18's,
>>> Marty
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 9:02 PM, ANGELYN ESDERS <esd...@rogers.com> wrote:
>>> I just received an email from my oncologist telling me that it is safe for 
>>> me to stop Gleevec for 3 months.
>>> I started Gleevec in January 2001, and reached cytogenic remission in July 
>>> 2001. 
>>> I've continued on 300mg per day.
>>> I was in the study for 12  years.
>>> I feel like it is my safety net between wellness and reoccurrence of CML.
>>> I am almost afraid to stop it. I no longer have any side effects from it.
>>> Who has stopped Gleevec, and what have you experienced as a result of doing 
>>> so?
>>> Thanking you all for your input...
>>> Angie in Canada
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