Hi Greenie and good to hear from you.  
That's a lot of tests. 
I think Moffitt depends on the PCR test.  I had one in jan. 
I only had 2 with my first onc and I was with him for 5 years. 
My onc at Moffitt will probably want another one soon. 

My Motto: Faith and Pills
Jeanie 🐟🐟18,s 
Dx 1/2004. CML Leukemia
Started Gleevec 2/2004
Started Tasigna  9/2009
Started Sprycel 11/2009
Started Ponatinib January 2015
Dr Balducci Moffitt Cancer Center

> On Aug 11, 2015, at 5:32 PM, Myvety2k via CMLHope <cmlhope@googlegroups.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Hi my CML friends and care takers,  just want to add to the BMB's that when I 
> received my first one was two weeks before Xmas that was 1998.  If I were to 
> count all of them their would be around 27 to 28 of them.  Now that they use 
> all blood to get the results that makes me a happy camper.  Blood tests I 
> can't begin to keep count and their was a time I couldn't stand to get one, I 
> remember you had to get one to get married almost kept me from doing that.
>  
> I was on active duty with the Navy for over a year before they caught up to 
> me and I received all of my shoots at one time, two very sore arms from that.
>  
> greenie
>  
> In a message dated 8/11/2015 5:20:55 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
> cmlhope@googlegroups.com writes:
> So sorry you had to go through that.  It hurts!!!
> I had one without any pain killer when I was first dx.  It was in the doctors 
> office in my first visit.  
> My next BMA was in a hospital under sedation and my others ones were too. 
> The ones done at Moffitt cancer center were the best. No hip pain later. 
> Marty you are so right about mind set because we are all getting push back 
> and forward 
> My recent blood test was not good and it made me sad. I had been doing so 
> well on ponatinib.  
> My WBC were up 2 points 12 but what worried me most were my   Kidney counts.  
> My PCD said I had chronic kidney disease but I have never had those high 
> counts before.  It must be the new tki.  
> So I must just hang in until my next test in sept.  
> Blessings all
> 
> My Motto: Faith and Pills
> Jeanie 🐟🐟18,s 
> Dx 1/2004. CML Leukemia
> Started Gleevec 2/2004
> Started Tasigna  9/2009
> Started Sprycel 11/2009
> Started Ponatinib January 2015
> Dr Balducci Moffitt Cancer Center
> 
>> On Aug 10, 2015, at 4:10 PM, Marty Gartenberg <wa2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Angie,
>> 
>> In my long list of my bucket list I have gone through seventeen bone marrow 
>> "gathering" expeditions, BMB's or MBA's, to many to count so why not take 
>> your pick? 
>> 
>> But is each one of them they hurt but I had a name for them, A.R.P.I.T.A.
>> (A real pain in the Azz) and so it was in the early days of the A.R.P.I.T.A. 
>> But I got through it. By the way there was nothing about having any pain 
>> killers only the four syringes of 2% lidocaine, which did nothing. At least 
>> they only lasted for several seconds.
>> 
>> I think that the longest amount of these needles were probably around 30 or 
>> more. And that is still a close friend of mine Skip. Oh by the way he      
>> has gone through I think about 30 years or more of CML without even taking 
>> and TKI's or any bone marrow transplants. I believe we are looking for a 
>> Guiness  world book of  records.
>> 
>> 18's
>> 
>> Marty     
>> 
>>> On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 8:35 AM, ANGELYN ESDERS <esd...@rogers.com> wrote:
>>> Thanks, Marty. I am having no great emotional upheaval over quitting 
>>> Gleevec. Whatever will be, will be, and everything is a learning 
>>> experience. It just feels strange after 14+ years.
>>> 
>>> In other news, Monday a new platelet dr. decided to do a BMB.
>>> You won't believe this: It took him FOUR tries to get a viable sample. 
>>> Never had this happen before. Four crunching entries.
>>> Sort of like having four BMB's at the same time. Afterwards I was almost in 
>>> a state of shock and could not stand, nauseous, very stressed. (In Canada 
>>> we do not get sedation or morphine for this procedure.) It took me 90 
>>> minutes to de-stress and had to drive myself home because he had not warned 
>>> me that he intended to do this and to bring a driver along. There's one 
>>> doctor who will NOT be doing another BMB on me!! I think he needs a few 
>>> more lessons in how to do it.
>>> 
>>> Anyway, I am fine....still low platelets. Life goes on.....
>>> Angie
>>> 
>>>  
>>> From: Marty Gartenberg <wa2...@gmail.com>
>>> To: cmlhope@googlegroups.com 
>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 7:29 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [CMLHope] Stopping Gleevec
>>> 
>>> Hi Angie,
>>> 
>>> You are not thee only one that has stopped your TKI and felt that way. 
>>> sometimes something that we take as far as any TKI's ends up being a crutch 
>>> for us and we always seem to worry if this or that will come back to haunt 
>>> us. It is a normal human response and we worry about it.
>>> 
>>> Angie, since your really feeling better without the Gleevec then you should 
>>> learn to live your life in the best way that you can.
>>> 
>>> I have seen this many times before. A man that both Zavie and I knew was on 
>>> Alpha Interferon and suffered immensely from it's horrible side effects. He 
>>> suffered for many years and when he was finally PCRU everyone told him to 
>>> stop using it anymore but he still continued still suffering because it had 
>>> become a crutch for him. He had the same feelings as you now have and after 
>>> a lot of coaching from everyone he finally stopped it. 
>>> 
>>> He has been off of it for many years and no reoccurrence of CML ever came 
>>> back to him. His system finally "burned out" his CML.
>>> 
>>> Remember that everything in life has a double edged soared. If you do 
>>> something will it come back to haunt you or if you don't do something will 
>>> it come back to haunt you??
>>> 
>>> I just can't live my life that way, and if something does come back then I 
>>> will deal with it.
>>> Remember me telling everyone that Leukemia is both a disease of not only 
>>> the body but it also poisons the mind.
>>> 
>>> Angie, why not start writing a diary and put everything in there that you 
>>> have gone through the day? I do it and it lets me reflect about what I 
>>> could have done better or worse during the day. I call it my frustrations 
>>> and how to deal with them, and it really works for me as I am sure it will 
>>> also work for you or anyone else. By the way I see that Giora sent you his 
>>> response. read it if you haven't as yet.
>>> 
>>> Here is something called "expect the best" Please read it and it will       
>>>  also help you with yourself.
>>> 
>>> One last thing. I am not a doctor but have gone through a lot of things in 
>>> my life health wise as you already know. Have you ever wondered why I am 
>>> still alive? I did at one time but maybe it is because I try helping others 
>>> as a promise that I once made to GOD and also received help myself from 
>>> others. It is a two way street, or I am the luckiest son of a bitch on this 
>>> planet ???
>>> 18's,
>>> 
>>> Marty 
>>> 
>>>    
>>> EXPECT THE BEST, MIND OVER MATTER. SUCCESS IS A FUNCTION OF SELF 
>>> CONFIDENCE. TO HAVE SUCCESS AT ANYTHING YOU MUST FIRST LEARN TO BELIEVE IN 
>>> YOURSELF. IF YOU EXPECT THE WORSE THEN THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT YOU WILL GET 
>>> (MIND OVER MATTER) IF YOU EXPECT THE BEST THEN THAT IS WHAT YOU WILL GET.
>>> WHAT WE HAVE TO LEARN TO DO IS TO CHANGE OUR MENTAL HABITS, OUR STATES OF 
>>> MIND. LEARN TO EXPECT AND NOT TO DOUBT. BY DOING THIS YOU BRING EVERYTHING 
>>> INTO THE REALM OF POSSIBILITY. WHEN YOU LEARN TO BELIEVE THEN WHAT YOU 
>>> THOUGHT TO BE IMPOSSIBLE THEN MOVES INTO THE AREA OF POSSIBILITY.
>>> EVERY GREAT THING EVENTUALLY BECOMES POSSIBLE FOR YOU. MY BELIEF AT THE 
>>> BEGINNING OF A DOUBTFUL UNDERTAKING IS THE ONE THING THAT INSURES THE 
>>> SUCCESSFUL OUTCOME...
>>> FOCUS...
>>>  18's,
>>> Marty
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 9:02 PM, ANGELYN ESDERS <esd...@rogers.com> wrote:
>>> I just received an email from my oncologist telling me that it is safe for 
>>> me to stop Gleevec for 3 months.
>>> I started Gleevec in January 2001, and reached cytogenic remission in July 
>>> 2001. 
>>> I've continued on 300mg per day.
>>> I was in the study for 12  years.
>>> I feel like it is my safety net between wellness and reoccurrence of CML.
>>> I am almost afraid to stop it. I no longer have any side effects from it.
>>> Who has stopped Gleevec, and what have you experienced as a result of doing 
>>> so?
>>> Thanking you all for your input...
>>> Angie in Canada
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