I hear you loud and clear Greenie. My first day at Navy boot camp was on 2 hours was get in line, eat breakfast, THEN ALL THE SHOTS, dentist etc. As I stepped to the dentist table I tried to pass out, but no--they waved something under my nose and kept me awake and just pushed me on down the line. Later we were issued our piece(gun) and had to do exercises. Then I could feel those sore arms.
Richard H. On Tuesday, August 11, 2015 at 4:33:01 PM UTC-5, greenie wrote: > Hi my CML friends and care takers, just want to add to the BMB's that > when I received my first one was two weeks before Xmas that was 1998. If I > were to count all of them their would be around 27 to 28 of them. Now that > they use all blood to get the results that makes me a happy camper. Blood > tests I can't begin to keep count and their was a time I couldn't stand to > get one, I remember you had to get one to get married almost kept me from > doing that. > > I was on active duty with the Navy for over a year before they caught up > to me and I received all of my shoots at one time, two very sore arms from > that. > > greenie > > In a message dated 8/11/2015 5:20:55 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > cml...@googlegroups.com <javascript:> writes: > > So sorry you had to go through that. It hurts!!! > I had one without any pain killer when I was first dx. It was in the > doctors office in my first visit. > My next BMA was in a hospital under sedation and my others ones were too. > The ones done at Moffitt cancer center were the best. No hip pain later. > Marty you are so right about mind set because we are all getting push back > and forward > My recent blood test was not good and it made me sad. I had been doing so > well on ponatinib. > My WBC were up 2 points 12 but what worried me most were my Kidney > counts. My PCD said I had chronic kidney disease but I have never had > those high counts before. It must be the new tki. > So I must just hang in until my next test in sept. > Blessings all > > My Motto: Faith and Pills > Jeanie 🐟🐟18,s > Dx 1/2004. CML Leukemia > Started Gleevec 2/2004 > Started Tasigna 9/2009 > Started Sprycel 11/2009 > Started Ponatinib January 2015 > Dr Balducci Moffitt Cancer Center > > On Aug 10, 2015, at 4:10 PM, Marty Gartenberg <wa2...@gmail.com > <javascript:>> wrote: > > Hi Angie, > > In my long list of my bucket list I have gone through seventeen bone > marrow "gathering" expeditions, BMB's or MBA's, to many to count so why not > take your pick? > > But is each one of them they hurt but I had a name for them, A.R.P.I.T.A. > (A real pain in the Azz) and so it was in the early days of the > A.R.P.I.T.A. But I got through it. By the way there was nothing about > having any pain killers only the four syringes of 2% lidocaine, which did > nothing. At least they only lasted for several seconds. > > I think that the longest amount of these needles were probably around 30 > or more. And that is still a close friend of mine Skip. Oh by the way he > has gone through I think about 30 years or more of CML without even taking > and TKI's or any bone marrow transplants. I believe we are looking for > a Guiness world book of records. > > 18's > > Marty > > On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 8:35 AM, ANGELYN ESDERS <esd...@rogers.com > <javascript:>> wrote: > > Thanks, Marty. I am having no great emotional upheaval over quitting > Gleevec. Whatever will be, will be, and everything is a learning > experience. It just feels strange after 14+ years. > > In other news, Monday a new platelet dr. decided to do a BMB. > You won't believe this: It took him FOUR tries to get a viable sample. > Never had this happen before. Four crunching entries. > Sort of like having four BMB's at the same time. Afterwards I was almost > in a state of shock and could not stand, nauseous, very stressed. (In > Canada we do not get sedation or morphine for this procedure.) It took me > 90 minutes to de-stress and had to drive myself home because he had not > warned me that he intended to do this and to bring a driver along. There's > one doctor who will NOT be doing another BMB on me!! I think he needs a few > more lessons in how to do it. > > Anyway, I am fine....still low platelets. Life goes on..... > Angie > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Marty Gartenberg <wa2...@gmail.com <javascript:>> > *To:* cml...@googlegroups.com <javascript:> > *Sent:* Wednesday, June 17, 2015 7:29 AM > *Subject:* Re: [CMLHope] Stopping Gleevec > > Hi Angie, > > You are not thee only one that has stopped your TKI and felt that way. > sometimes something that we take as far as any TKI's ends up being a crutch > for us and we always seem to worry if this or that will come back to haunt > us. It is a normal human response and we worry about it. > > Angie, since your really feeling better without the Gleevec then you > should learn to live your life in the best way that you can. > > I have seen this many times before. A man that both Zavie and I knew was > on Alpha Interferon and suffered immensely from it's horrible side effects. > He suffered for many years and when he was finally PCRU everyone told him > to stop using it anymore but he still continued still suffering because it > had become a crutch for him. He had the same feelings as you now have and > after a lot of coaching from everyone he finally stopped it. > > He has been off of it for many years and no reoccurrence of CML ever came > back to him. His system finally "burned out" his CML. > > Remember that everything in life has a double edged soared. If you do > something will it come back to haunt you or if you don't do something will > it come back to haunt you?? > > I just can't live my life that way, and if something does come back then I > will deal with it. > Remember me telling everyone that Leukemia is both a disease of not only > the body but it also poisons the mind. > > Angie, why not start writing a diary and put everything in there that you > have gone through the day? I do it and it lets me reflect about what I > could have done better or worse during the day. I call it my frustrations > and how to deal with them, and it really works for me as I am sure it will > also work for you or anyone else. By the way I see that Giora sent you his > response. read it if you haven't as yet. > > Here is something called "expect the best" Please read it and it will also > help you with yourself. > > One last thing. I am not a doctor but have gone through a lot of things in > my life health wise as you already know. Have you ever wondered why I am > still alive? I did at one time but maybe it is because I try helping others > as a promise that I once made to GOD and also received help myself from > others. It is a two way street, or I am the luckiest son of a bitch on this > planet ??? > 18's, > > Marty > > > *EXPECT THE BEST, MIND OVER MATTER. SUCCESS IS A FUNCTION OF SELF > CONFIDENCE. TO HAVE SUCCESS AT ANYTHING YOU MUST FIRST LEARN TO BELIEVE IN > YOURSELF. IF YOU EXPECT THE WORSE THEN THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT YOU WILL GET > (MIND OVER MATTER) IF YOU EXPECT THE BEST THEN THAT IS WHAT YOU WILL GET.* > *WHAT WE HAVE TO LEARN TO DO IS TO CHANGE OUR MENTAL HABITS, OUR STATES OF > MIND. LEARN TO EXPECT AND NOT TO DOUBT. BY DOING THIS YOU BRING EVERYTHING > INTO THE REALM OF POSSIBILITY. WHEN YOU LEARN TO BELIEVE THEN WHAT YOU > THOUGHT TO BE IMPOSSIBLE THEN MOVES INTO THE AREA OF POSSIBILITY.* > *EVERY GREAT THING EVENTUALLY BECOMES POSSIBLE FOR YOU. MY BELIEF AT THE > BEGINNING OF A DOUBTFUL UNDERTAKING IS THE ONE THING THAT INSURES THE > SUCCESSFUL OUTCOME...* > *FOCUS...* > 18's, > Marty > > > > On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 9:02 PM, ANGELYN ESDERS <esd...@rogers.com > <javascript:>> wrote: > > I just received an email from my oncologist telling me that it is safe for > me to stop Gleevec for 3 months. > I started Gleevec in January 2001, and reached cytogenic remission in July > 2001. > I've continued on 300mg per day. > I was in the study for 12 years. > I feel like it is my safety net between wellness and reoccurrence of CML. > I am almost afraid to stop it. 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