My dr gave me 50 mg but I am taking half. Should I take the full dose?
18’s
How often to get tested?
My Motto:
Faith and Pills
With Love
Jeanie
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Dx 1/2004 CML Leukemia
Started Gleevec 2/2004
Started Tasigna 9/2009
Started Sprycel 11/2009
Started Ponatinib 1/ 2015
New Doctor--Dr Martine Extermann
Moffitt Cancer  center sept 2017
Dr Balducci retired 

0 CBL. ABL

> On Jul 17, 2018, at 3:39 PM, Marty Gartenberg <wa2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Great drug! I have been taking it for many, many years. What dose is he on? 
> 
> 18's,
> 
> Marty
> 
>> On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 3:30 PM, Joyce Mesnarich <joy...@htc.net> wrote:
>> Jeanie,
>> My husband has had hypothyroidism for years…..before he got CML.  It never 
>> caused him any problems.  It was diagnosed at a regular office visit with a 
>> blood test.  He takes levothyroxin and has regular blood tests.
>> 
>>             Joyce in Southern Illinois
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jul 17, 2018, at 10:57 AM, 'Jeanie' via CMLHope 
>>> <cmlhope@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Anyone have a thyroid problem?
>>> 
>>> My Motto:
>>> Faith and Pills
>>> With Love
>>> Jeanie
>>> 🐠free
>>> Dx 1/2004 CML Leukemia
>>> Started Gleevec 2/2004
>>> Started Tasigna 9/2009
>>> Started Sprycel 11/2009
>>> Started Ponatinib 1/ 2015
>>> New Doctor--Dr Martine Extermann
>>> Moffitt Cancer  center sept 2017
>>> Dr Balducci retired 
>>> 
>>> 0 CBL. ABL
>>> 
>>>> On Jul 15, 2018, at 12:44 PM, Marty Gartenberg <wa2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Okay Jeanie,
>>>> 
>>>> Since there is a lot to talk about I will do it between your lines.
>>>> 
>>>> Hi
>>>> That’s cute
>>>> When I first started dating my hubby I was 16. When we went to leave I 
>>>> hugged and kissed my mom and dad goodbye. He told me later he had never 
>>>> seen that before.
>>>> 
>>>> OH I DID, BECAUSE MY PARENTS CAME FROM EUROPE AND IT WAS THEIR CUSTOM THE 
>>>> WAY THAT THEY WOULD USUALLY DO IT WAS FIRST CAME MY MOM AND SHE WOULD HUG 
>>>> AND THEN KISS ME. THEN CAME MY DAD. WHAT HE WOULD DO WAS FIRST HUG ME THEN 
>>>> KISS ME AND THEN HE WOULD GIVE ME WHAT WAS CALLED A KNIPPLE. DO YOU KNOW 
>>>> WHAT A KINPPLE IS? WELL IT HURT LIKE HE NEVER WANTED ME TO FORGET HIM. 
>>>> 
>>>> HE WOULD GRASP MY CHECK BETWEEN HIS THUMB AND INDEX FINGERS AND SORT OF 
>>>> TWIST AND THEN LET GO. I COULDN'T WAIT TILL IT WAS OVER BUT AS I LEARNED 
>>>> LATER ON IN LIFE HE JUST WANTED ME TO KNOW THAT HE AND MOM WOULD NEVER 
>>>> FORGET THEM
>>>> 
>>>> His mom and dad never hugged or kissed him.  It was just the way we were. 
>>>> Kiss goodbye and kiss hello. 
>>>> 
>>>> BY THE WAY THERE IS A HEBREW WORD THAT YOU HAVE PROBABLY HEARD BEFORE, 
>>>> SHALOM. IT MEANS WHEN YOU ARE APPROACHING SOMEONE, HELLO, WHEN YOU ARE ON 
>>>> THEIR SIDE IT MEANS PEACE AND WHEN YOU PASS THEM IT MEANS GOODBYE 
>>>> 
>>>> I THINK THAT HE JUST NEEDED A KNIPPLE. 
>>>>   
>>>> Same way with my kids. I tell them a hug is better than a pill. 
>>>> How are you today?
>>>> 
>>>> HEY JEANIE, KINPPLES FOR EVERY ONE. 😀
>>>> 
>>>> I’m waiting on my daughter as she will take me to a late lunch. 
>>>> I find my appetite not as good as it used to be. How bout you?
>>>> 
>>>> BOTH OF MY PARENTS WERE COOKS AND MY FATHER WAS ALSO A BAKER. WE DIDN'T 
>>>> HAVE A LOT OF MONEY BUT WE SURE HAD A LOT OF BREAD. WE LEARNED TO MAKE DO. 
>>>> A WHOLE STORY BEHIND THIS BUT FOR ANOTHER TIME...
>>>> 
>>>> I loved Millie’s cooking and recipes.  I sure do miss her.  
>>>> She fought hard. 
>>>> I remember when she started losing the use of her arms she said she didn’t 
>>>> know what she would do if she couldn’t do her sewing and etc. 
>>>> though I never met her I felt I knew her all my life. More later——
>>>> 
>>>> THAT'S WHY I CALLED HER MOMMY LOTTIE.
>>>> 
>>>> And she knew what 18's meant.
>>>> 
>>>> So 18's,
>>>> 
>>>> Marty, and a Knipple to you.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Sun, Jul 15, 2018 at 12:05 PM, 'Jeanie' via CMLHope 
>>>>> <cmlhope@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>>> Hi
>>>>> That’s cute
>>>>> When I first started dating my hubby I was 16. When we went to leave I 
>>>>> hugged and kissed my mom and dad goodbye. He told me later he had never 
>>>>> seen that before.  His mom and dad never hugged or kissed him.  It was 
>>>>> just the way we were. 
>>>>> Kiss goodbye and kiss hello.  
>>>>> Same way with my kids. I tell them a hug is better than a pill. 
>>>>> How are you today?
>>>>> I’m waiting on my daughter as she will take me to a late lunch. 
>>>>> I find my appetite not as good as it used to be. How bout you?
>>>>> I loved Millie’s cooking and recipes.  I sure do miss her.  
>>>>> She fought hard. 
>>>>> I remember when she started losing the use of her arms she said she 
>>>>> didn’t know what she would do if she couldn’t do her sewing and etc. 
>>>>> though I never met her I felt I knew her all my life. More later——
>>>>> 
>>>>> My Motto:
>>>>> Faith and Pills
>>>>> With Love
>>>>> Jeanie
>>>>> 🐠free
>>>>> Dx 1/2004 CML Leukemia
>>>>> Started Gleevec 2/2004
>>>>> Started Tasigna 9/2009
>>>>> Started Sprycel 11/2009
>>>>> Started Ponatinib 1/ 2015
>>>>> New Doctor--Dr Martine Extermann
>>>>> Moffitt Cancer  center sept 2017
>>>>> Dr Balducci retired 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 0 CBL. ABL
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jul 13, 2018, at 9:52 AM, Marty Gartenberg <wa2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Jeanie, And I love you to, but when you say " Love you so very much" Do 
>>>>>> you mean like hugging me so much that your going to crush me until my 
>>>>>> ribs crumble? 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Ah yet another opportunity to let me say again...
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 18's,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Marty 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Fri, Jul 13, 2018 at 9:16 AM, 'Jeanie' via CMLHope 
>>>>>>> <cmlhope@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> So true Marty
>>>>>>> You aren’t even on tki’s and look what you’ve been through. 
>>>>>>> Thank you for this email. 
>>>>>>> Love you so very much 
>>>>>>> Jeanie
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> My Motto:
>>>>>>> Faith and Pills
>>>>>>> With Love
>>>>>>> Jeanie
>>>>>>> 🐠free
>>>>>>> Dx 1/2004 CML Leukemia
>>>>>>> Started Gleevec 2/2004
>>>>>>> Started Tasigna 9/2009
>>>>>>> Started Sprycel 11/2009
>>>>>>> Started Ponatinib 1/ 2015
>>>>>>> New Doctor--Dr Martine Extermann
>>>>>>> Moffitt Cancer  center sept 2017
>>>>>>> Dr Balducci retired 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 0 CBL. ABL
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Jul 10, 2018, at 8:53 AM, Marty Gartenberg <wa2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Oh Jeanie,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> first let me take you back to something I wrote to Richard
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I have heard a lot of people mentioning that they blame some of the 
>>>>>>>> TKI that they are taking. Perhaps that may be so, but what if it isn't 
>>>>>>>> that at all? That is why they need to consult with their doctors 
>>>>>>>> because that is his or her job. 👉And if they feel that there is 
>>>>>>>> someone that can help as well then get a second opinion.👈 Don't forget 
>>>>>>>> they won't be hurt or offended because they are all getting together 
>>>>>>>> to help you. 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> And we will now continue on. Please read this. I took the time to 
>>>>>>>> write it for a reason and I see that you took my 👉advice👈. A lot 
>>>>>>>> more... But I want to hug your grand-daughter. My father once taught 
>>>>>>>> me a lesson and I think that you may want to pass this onto her, and 
>>>>>>>> yourself as well.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> When a person/s learns something new everyday then they become 
>>>>>>>> smarter. When a person/s refuses to learn something every day then 
>>>>>>>> they revert back to yesterday.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hum, let me think..... Oh yea I think that your grand-daughter already 
>>>>>>>> knows this?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> "Take it Day by day and as my granddaughter says". She said “every 
>>>>>>>> little thing’s gonna be alright.”
>>>>>>>> ❤️
>>>>>>>> Blood transfusions: A sort of long story but learning something new 
>>>>>>>> every day made me smarter and I am still alive... Jeanie I don't blame 
>>>>>>>> you for not wanting other peoples blood in you but let me ask you a 
>>>>>>>> question? How many units of blood did you require? Did it help you? 
>>>>>>>> Well i needn't know the answer because I already know but nothing that 
>>>>>>>> you told me but I know and here is why.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I had O+ blood and my sister had B+ blood. So my transplant doctor 
>>>>>>>> told me that since my white blood count was past 186,000 that I need 
>>>>>>>> to have the bone marrow transplant now. Or I may not survive because I 
>>>>>>>> was in Blast crises that I was in.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> But he knew about my blood type wasn't a match for my sister but 
>>>>>>>> everything was perfect but the matching type. He told me that there 
>>>>>>>> may be a way to change my blood type but it could also cause my death. 
>>>>>>>> I then told him that i was dieing anyway so let's try it. 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> He started it before my transplant. It would require that I would have 
>>>>>>>> to get many, many blood transfusions as well a a lot of platelets  
>>>>>>>> infusions, and Gama globulin and other human blood products. 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Who already knew about this? R***** Z********. Who showed up with 41 
>>>>>>>> "members" of his "family"
>>>>>>>> (Yes you know what I mean about this) ready to donate blood. But there 
>>>>>>>> was a problem. At that time there was a new disease called AIDS and 
>>>>>>>> all of the blood banks started testing and this slowed down the 
>>>>>>>> collection of gathering of blood.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Not to keep you on the edge of your seat. I once helped save a woman's 
>>>>>>>> life because she was dying of stage four breast cancer and I did this 
>>>>>>>> because I knew a doctor who may help her, and it took more then two 
>>>>>>>> years. He never forgot me. 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Some people just have their power but most don't. He was one of those 
>>>>>>>> that did to a certain extent. The way that I look about it was one 
>>>>>>>> life foe another. 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> In order to have my blood type converted from O to B I needed 96 units 
>>>>>>>> of blood and I already knew where 41 of them came from. Just to let 
>>>>>>>> you know if a donated unit of blood did not match my blood profile it 
>>>>>>>> would be switched and someone else would get that unit of blood and a 
>>>>>>>> "trade" was made. I am now called a Chimera with B+ blood in me.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Now I am going forward in my life once more: Twenty years later my 
>>>>>>>> kidneys started started to fail. I was on Dialysis for four years and 
>>>>>>>> through a miracle I was able to get a kidney transplant and while I 
>>>>>>>> was outside of the operating room I noticed a white cooler with a red 
>>>>>>>> cross and it said "Human organs, B right side short urethra. 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I almost jumped out of the gurney because it was B type and then I 
>>>>>>>> remembered that I used to be O type. Now what are the chances that 
>>>>>>>> this could ever happen?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Now Jeanie and all of the rest of you reading this, don't you think 
>>>>>>>> that there truly Miracles floating around? Just ask your grand 
>>>>>>>> daughter....Now you already know what I know. Have you learned 
>>>>>>>> anything new today? I have.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 18's
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Marty
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 10, 2018 at 6:01 AM, 'Jeanie' via CMLHope 
>>>>>>>>> <cmlhope@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Hi all
>>>>>>>>> I had this problem when on Tasigna. My hmg dropped to 8. I argued 
>>>>>>>>> with my onc as I didn’t want someone else’s blood in me. I knew if he 
>>>>>>>>> would take me off the tasigna the hbg would come back up. He finally 
>>>>>>>>> talked me into it and I had to stay for hours getting transfusions. 
>>>>>>>>> As most of you know not fun. Tasigna about killed me and I landed 
>>>>>>>>> back in the hospital until I could talk my doctor into giving me 
>>>>>>>>> Sprycel. I decided to make the move to Moffitt and never regretted 
>>>>>>>>> it. 
>>>>>>>>> Good luck to everyone.  Take it Day by day and as my granddaughter 
>>>>>>>>> says, “every little thing’s gonna be alright.”
>>>>>>>>> ❤️ 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> My Motto:
>>>>>>>>> Faith and Pills
>>>>>>>>> With Love
>>>>>>>>> Jeanie
>>>>>>>>> 🐠free
>>>>>>>>> Dx 1/2004 CML Leukemia
>>>>>>>>> Started Gleevec 2/2004
>>>>>>>>> Started Tasigna 9/2009
>>>>>>>>> Started Sprycel 11/2009
>>>>>>>>> Started Ponatinib 1/ 2015
>>>>>>>>> New Doctor--Dr Martine Extermann
>>>>>>>>> Moffitt Cancer  center sept 2017
>>>>>>>>> Dr Balducci retired 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 0 CBL. ABL
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 9, 2018, at 10:21 AM, Marty Gartenberg <wa2...@gmail.com> 
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Richard, first thing is when your hemoglobin drops to 10 or below 
>>>>>>>>>> then is the time that procrit generic Epoetin Alfa should start. It 
>>>>>>>>>> should increase your red/hemoglobin count. However it may take a 
>>>>>>>>>> week or two to start showing results. Why don't you mention this to 
>>>>>>>>>> your doctor. 
>>>>>>>>>> Also, have your kidney function checked as well. 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> When my kidneys started to fail I was on Dialsys and found that my 
>>>>>>>>>> hemoglobin level started dropping. Kidney function has a lot to do 
>>>>>>>>>> with that. The reason why is because there is a hormone called 
>>>>>>>>>> Erythropoietin  which  is released in response to hypoxia (low 
>>>>>>>>>> levels of oxygen at tissue level) in the renal circulation. It 
>>>>>>>>>> stimulates erythropoiesis (production of red blood cells) in the 
>>>>>>>>>> bone marrow.   I am writing this in bold font to make sure that it 
>>>>>>>>>> can be understood, it is that important!
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> When I was on Diaysis sometimes my HGB would drop to from 7% to 9% 
>>>>>>>>>> and I felt like I coulden't even get out of bed. My wife would help 
>>>>>>>>>> me into her car and help me into the Dialysis center. I lived a 
>>>>>>>>>> horrible life until I had a kidney Transplant.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I have heard a lot of people mentioning that they blame some of the 
>>>>>>>>>> TKI that they are taking. Perhaps that may be so, but what if it 
>>>>>>>>>> isn't that at all? That is why they need to consult with their 
>>>>>>>>>> doctors because that is his or her job. And if they feel that there 
>>>>>>>>>> is someone that can help as well then get a second opinion. Don't 
>>>>>>>>>> forget they won't be hurt or offended because they are all getting 
>>>>>>>>>> together to help you.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Richard and everyone else, there was a time a very long time ago 
>>>>>>>>>> that my father tought me something. He said that everyone needs to 
>>>>>>>>>> learn something new everyday because it will make you smarter. If 
>>>>>>>>>> you refuse to learn something new everyday then you will revert back 
>>>>>>>>>> to yesterday. And he was right!
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 18's
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Marty
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Jul 8, 2018 at 11:31 PM, Richard H <rbhuffm...@gmail.com> 
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, I have been struggling with this for years.  I have had 
>>>>>>>>>>> Transfusions, and now check my CBC every month to see if I need to 
>>>>>>>>>>> take Procreate to bring my blood level back up.  I am currently on 
>>>>>>>>>>> 200 mg Gleevec daily because my CML levels will rise if I don't use 
>>>>>>>>>>> it as a maintenance feature.  I am approaching 16 1/2 years since 
>>>>>>>>>>> diagnosis.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Richard H. 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, July 7, 2018 at 1:04:15 PM UTC-5, Vivi wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> I suddenly became terribly anemic and my doctor cut my intake of 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 400mg Gleevec daily in half.  It took five months but I am no 
>>>>>>>>>>>> longer anemic and the CML does not seem to have become visible as 
>>>>>>>>>>>> yet.  Has anyone else had a problem like this?
>>>>>>>>>>> 
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