So sorry I wrote my earlier calouse message. They are hard choices. I missed a whole season due to work and family issues. Never again. You could have her hauled, or once afloat, move the boat. Either way, I would move the boat away from this problem, move her to a better sailing venue and drive to her. She'll thank you for it, I think.
Life is short and we must adapt to global warming, not just accept it. Improvise and overcome! Chuck Resolute 1990 C&C 34R Atlantic City, NJ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Schiller" <schil...@bloomingdalecom.net> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 7:53:54 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List Stus-Trip Planning Actually, it's both. I slip at the Municipal marina (Museum Docks). They have been dredging since closing and I seriously think that the water is a good 8-9 feet below the dock. The docks were place 6 feet above mean low water (MLW). When we had the boat pulled out we were showing a couple of inches under the keel and that was a foot and a half ago. The other problem is that I store upriver and the river is dredged to 6 feet below MLW. If we don' get a significant amount of snow (we usually get right around 72 inches in the season, we are currently are at 8 inches) then there is no way to get down river. It is serious enough that the city has already guaranteed that our slip fees are refundable if the water doesn't come up. We are taking a wait and see approach. Like I said, we have stayed out before. The last time we stayed out, I rewired the whole boat. This time, who knows (install the hot water heater that I bought 5 years ago, refrigeration?) I live about 15 miles west of South Haven, right in the bullseye of the Lake Affect snow belt. We normally get about 50% more snow than Kalamazoo. Neil Schiller 1970 Redwing 35, Hull #7 (C&C 35, Mark I) South Haven, Mi Sent from my iPad On Jan 11, 2013, at 5:35 PM, " wwadjo...@aol.com " < wwadjo...@aol.com > wrote: Neil, I am in Pentwater, Mi and feel your pain. Is it your dockage or your channel out to Lake Michigan that is the problem? We are all fighting the channel dredging issue with the State/Feds. Bill Walker Evening Star C n C 36 ----- Reply message ----- From: " schil...@bloomingdalecom.net " < schil...@bloomingdalecom.net > To: < cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: Stus-List Stus-Trip Planning Date: Fri, Jan 11, 2013 2:05 pm Not quite that simple. The levels of Lake Michigan/Lake Huron have really crashed this year. We are at the lowest recorded level since they have been taking data. Lots of theories as to why (dredging out the bedrock in the St Clair river, two warm dry years, etc.). We have been in South Haven for 20 years. There was 2 inches of water under my keel when we pulled out at Labor Day. We have lost 17 inches since then. This isn't the first time that we have stayed out. Probably not the last. South Haven is a great town for sailboats, just maybe not this year. Neil Schiller 1970 Redwing 35, Hull #7 (C&C 35, Mark I) Corsair Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID Chuck S < cscheaf...@comcast.net > wrote: Sounds like South Haven isn't a good choice for sailboats? You sound like a smart guy. Don't be a victim. Don't keep the boat where it can't be used. Move to a slip with deeper water? Chuck Resolute 1990 C&C 34R Atlantic City, NJ ----- Original Message ----- From: "schiller" < schil...@bloomingdalecom.net > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2013 6:11:17 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List Stus-Trip Planning We are hoping to be able to get into the water next year, so we aren't really planning any trips yet. Lake Michigan is at all time low levels at the moment and we aren't getting any snow or ice cover to help bring it back up. Hate to be a naysayer, but we are not hopeful. We are at 1/3 of the normal snowfall so far this winter. Neil Schiller 1970 Redwing 35, Hull #7 (C&C 35, Mark I) "Corsair" Waiting for the snow to fly in South Haven. Mi On 1/9/2013 9:12 PM, Richard N. Bush wrote: <blockquote> Since its time to begin planning (or dreaming) about trips or destinations for next summer I was wondering what others have in mind. Is anyone planning an extended trip or have a special place in mind? Richard 1987 33-II Richard N. Bush Law Offices 235 South Fifth Street, Fourth Floor Louisville, Kentucky 40202 502-584-7255 -----Original Message----- From: Joel Aronson <joel.aron...@gmail.com> To: cnc-list <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Sent: Wed, Jan 9, 2013 7:11 pm Subject: Re: Stus-List cnc-photoalbum Forum activity boost? I agree. I always direct Sailnet people over here. The moderators don't seem to mind. I'm starting to keep project photos on the boat's Facebook page. One I actually finish some it should be easy to move them over. Joel 35/3 The Office Annapolis. On Jan 9, 2013, at 6:53 PM, David Risch < davidrisc...@msn.com > wrote: <blockquote> Martin, Excellent point! There seems to be an unintended disconnect between the Forum and these e-mails. Is there a way Stu (technologically) could connect the dots without much cutting and pasting? Very much worth pursuing. David F. Risch 1981 40-2 (401) 419-4650 (cell) From: mdeyo...@deyoungmfg.com To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2013 22:18:34 +0000 Subject: Stus-List cnc-photoalbum Forum activity boost? I believe some support from the active cnc-listers would help the cnc-photoalbum web site’s Forum/Blog section be more up to date and attractive to new or potential C&C owners or those owners that are not aware of the email list. If an additional lister or two were to respond to older posts (some have dates back to 2007) it would enhance the cnc-photoalbum as the best C&C related web site and help avoid having Sailnet or other more general interest sailing web sites have more up to date C&C activity. Maybe capturing the best practices/project info from the list topics and posting them as reference (i.e. mast step repairs or cabin sole refinishing) would add value and activity. I have added comments on posts/requests when it matched my C&C size range and experience but if too many recent posts show my name the forum looks limited in scope. Owning a 1970 43, a 1980 36 in the past, and having made many offshore passages in a 1974 C&C 39 I typically comment on “over 30ft”, and other misc and general topics. It would be great to have some input from the more popular 25ft, 27ft, 29ft, and 35ft active owners. It is unlikely I will be able to add any value to the recipe section as my culinary skills are limited to burning beast on a grill. Anyone interested in adding a few words of wisdom? 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