> Why was the sock ineffective? < I use an ATN sock much of the time on Calypso. I sometimes single-hand, often race doublehanded, and my idea of fully crewed is 4 to 5 POB. Often the crew is inexperienced as Calypso's co-owner and I will invite almost anybody out sailing if they say "I've always wanted to go sailing". (I typically respond by looking at my watch and saying: What are you doing Saturday at 8am?)
Calypso's spinnaker is around 1800 sq ft. When short handed the ATN sock allows a margin of safety and ability to recover from sail handling SNAFUs. The safety bit has also to do with the ability to recover a MOB or similar issue with the spinnaker up. We also use a Harken roller furler for the headsail. When racing I am referring to "club" level (AKA slow pitch, old fart class, Cruiser/Racer etc.). We avoid sausage type buoy courses preferring to sail longer legs with a mix of upwind, downwind and reaches. The ATN sock and Harken roller furler combo requires a modification of the normal set and douse process at each mark rounding. On Calypso, the spinny hal'yd will wrap in the Harken furler swivel if it is not well clear. At the windward mark the cockpit crew will roll up the headsail as we round. The pole and spinny are rigged but still on deck. I position the pole as soon as the headsail is clear then hoist the spinny (in the sock). Once I secure the hal'yd I double check that the sock is not twisted (ATN puts a dark color over the control line sleeve to make it easy to check). When all is clear I signal to the cockpit to begin tensioning the sheet and afterguy while I pull the control line to raise the sock. We dip pole gybe. I move the sock control lines forward to keep them clear. I bring them aft once it is clear how the leeward rounding will evolve. At the leeward mark the sock often allows us to carry the spinny closer to the mark than other short handed boats. The spinny will douse quickly under most conditions but avoid reaching unless the wind is very light. About 2 boat lengths out I will call for the sheet/guy to be eased/released, I pull down the sock, and drop the sock/sail on deck being careful to avoid trapping the headsail sheet. Once I clear the spinny hal'yd the headsail is rolled out even if the pole is still up (on the weather side). So, ineffective compared to a non-sock set/douse with a competent crew? You bet. Work great for short handed racing and cruising of a 43' boat? Yup. Great for deliveries, singlehanded sailing, and cruising with the family? Yes sir. Would I use it if I was serious about racing/winning in a competitive fully crewed fleet? Nope. Martin Calypso 1970 C&C 43 Seattle ________________________________ From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Joel Aronson Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 6:39 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Handicap Review Tom, WHy was the sock ineffective? I'm thinking of getting one, mostly for cruising. You are right. There will likely be a penalty, but no one knows what it will be. I suspect the longer the pole the greater the penalty. I've done inside and outside gybes without a pole. The outside is easier unless you have good crew. Joel 35/3 Annapolis Sent from my iPad On Feb 13, 2013, at 9:32 PM, TOM VINCENT <tvince...@msn.com<mailto:tvince...@msn.com>> wrote: Several weeks ago I asked a question on the forum and there were several responses, basically no one really knows the answer. My question was, what penalty would I incur by adding a bow sprit to my foredeck for flying the asymmetrical spinnaker. I had purchased a Forespar sprit at the Annapolis Boat show with plans on installing it this spring. I race on the Bohemia River which is on the upper end of the Chesapeake Bay. We use the PHRF of the Chesapeake Bay as our guideline for our Wednesday night races. I have been racing the C&C 36' cb for 5 years and have won the series 2 times and my worst finish overall was a 3rd for the season. We have 15 boats in the fleet and have an average of 10 boats racing. I am the big boat of the fleet with a rating of 147 non spinnaker and 127 with spinnaker. I was using the ATN sock for two years and then purchased a bag as a turtle with better results. We have learned how to gybe the shoot with a degree of success with practice. The sprit should make it much easier to gybe, as I understand I can do an inside gybe with the sprit. The assym has a girth of 180% and a sail area of 1090, it is one big red sail. When we are on a broad reach the boat takes off, down wind we sail off about 20 degrees and gybe. I hope this info helps a few members. Tom Vincent Frolic II Chesapeake City, MD _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com<mailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com>
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