Vaseline works for an inhull transducer. Joel Aronson
On Apr 14, 2013, at 11:31 AM, Jim Watts <paradigmat...@gmail.com> wrote: If going in-hull, you can test your location while in the water by placing a baggie of water between the transducer and the hull. If it works like that, it will work glued down. *This does not work if the boat is out of the water*. I shouldn't have to say that, but I will because I have had a couple of people do just that. FWIW, the transducer maker, Airmar, recommends epoxy, and specifically warns against silicone. On 13 April 2013 08:20, dwight veinot <dwightvei...@hfx.eastlink.ca> wrote: > ** ** ** > > Yes they do…very good point, excellent memory actually. I did not have to > be concerned because I have an old 1974 design and the under bottom is > solid and thick…I think even a bubble in that, and I know there are some > because there was one beside the hole I cut to do the through hull mount, > which may have had something to do with why it was not always reliable so > you always have to find a spot when there are no voids in the solid lay up > too, but at least if it doesn’t work you can move it fairly easily and you > don’t leave a gaping hole behind. I got lucky first try**** > > ** ** > > Dwight Veinot**** > > C&C 35 MKII, Alianna**** > > Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS**** > > ** ** > ------------------------------ > > *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Russ > & Melody > *Sent:* April 13, 2013 10:59 AM > *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com > *Subject:* Re: Stus-List New through hull transducer**** > > ** ** > > Hi Dwight, > > Don't these inside hull installations need to be in a solid layup area and > not a cored hull area? > > I seemed to remember that detail being part of past discussions on this > subject. > > ** **Cheers, Russ > ** *Sweet *35 mk-1 > > At 12:55 AM 13/04/2013, you wrote: > > **** > > Based on my experience, I would say if it’s a depth transducer install it > on the inside of your hull and either don’t cut a new hole or plug the one > you have already. Find a nice spot on the inside, close where you want it > located, clean the area with solvent, let it dry and then apply a really > generous gob of Dow Corning silicone sealant and submerge the active face > of the transducer in it while holding on a slight angle to make sure you > don’t trap air bubbles, then press it down hard and hold there for a > while. I did it that way based on information I got from this list because > my Raymarine depth transducer was not reliable…it has worked flawlessly to > over 200 feet (my boat draws about 6) for over 2 years and I have one less > hole in the boat…I am happy > > Dwight Veinot > C&C 35 MKII, Alianna > Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS > **** > ------------------------------ > > *From:* CnC-List [ > mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com<cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com>] > *On Behalf Of *jmckay533 > *Sent:* April 12, 2013 10:36 PM > *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com > *Subject:* Stus-List New through hull transducer > > Good evening. I AM HOPING TO INSTALL A NEW THROUGH HULL TRANSDUCER this > weekend. What marine sealant would you suggest? > > Thank you. > > John on Oxygen > > > > > Sent from Samsung tablet > > > > -------- Original message -------- > From: Brent Driedger <bren...@highspeedcrow.ca> > Date: 04-12-2013 6:58 PM (GMT-05:00) > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: Re: Stus-List Race Video > > I tend to agree Dwight. > That's a gripping video and reminds me of a very similar situation I got > myself into last year minus the crushed legs. I was being too aggressive, > boats touched and although no protest came of it, I was at fault and should > have bailed when I was getting squeezed out of the pack before the > committee boat. > On the deck after the race much discussion was held and I insisted I could > not change course for I would have rammed the committee boat but later when > the photos came out I realized I had plenty of time to abandon the start > and not look like a knob. > The point is at speed within lengths of the line and adrenaline is up with > a bunch of fast boats a nose blow apart, it's easy to make a decision that > you wished you hadn't after the fact and unfortunately the only solution to > this is experience. > On the plus side the event was educational, provided lively beer talk and > no damage was done. > > Brent > 27-5 > **Lake Winnipeg** > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 2013-04-12, at 5:25 PM, dwight veinot < dwightvei...@hfx.eastlink.ca> > wrote: > > **** > > Blue was close hauled with lots of power, what looks like an uncoordinated > crew and in close quarters. She was give way boat and it looks to me like > she was barging the line hell bent to get across inside of what looks like > the committee boat, and ahead and to windward of the fleet. If she went > up hard she either had to tack away or risk ramming what I think is the > committee boat. I can’t tell if the leeward boat had room to fall off > safely to avoid collision with blue without making a collision with the > boat below her, looks like she was being taken up too. I heard now up now > up now up now up so someone on Blue knew they were being taken up but I > don’t think the helmsman or the crew acted soon enough or fast enough. The > helmsman’s effort to steer up seemed ineffective, not much of a rudder on > that boat if you ask me. The mainsail trimmer tensioned for more close > hauled course and looks like the jib trimmer did the same…seems like the > crew did not know how to sail that boat under those conditions in close > quarters…they did not appear to know what to expect from the boat and the > crew…if I turned the wheel that aggressively on my 35 I feel certain she > would go up, now I have to try that to find out for sure and ruin a > perfectly nice beat some day. Haven’t raced in a while… what is in the > rule about barging > > Dwight Veinot > C&C 35 MKII, Alianna > Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS > **** > ------------------------------ > > *From:* CnC-List [ > mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com<cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com>] > *On Behalf Of *Alan Bergen > *Sent:* April 12, 2013 6:36 PM > *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com > *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Race Video > > After the preparatory signal (boats are now racing and must sail by the > racing rules) but before the starting signal, the leeward boat can sail all > the way up to head to wind. After the starting signal, she cannot sail > higher than close hauled. Boats must still avoid contact if at all > possible. Crossing the starting line has no effect on how rules 11 and 14 > are applied. > Alan Bergen > C&C 35 Mk III Thirsty > Rose City YC > ****Portland**, **OR**** > > Alan, > > Does Dave Perry’s 2016 RRoS book clarify the difference, if any, between > before the start and after crossing the starting line regarding Rule 11 and > 14? > > It has been a while since I read Dave’s last RRoS book but I recall > something about the right-of-way boat having more flexibility before the > starting gun. > > Martin > Calypso > 1970 C&C 43 > ****Seattle**** > > *From:* CnC-List [ > mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com<cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com>] > *On Behalf Of *Alan Bergen > *Sent:* Friday, April 12, 2013 11:31 AM > *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com > *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Race Video > > Blue was allowed to sail her course until she was the give-way boat. As > soon as she overlapped Camelot, she was the give-way boat, and had to keep > clear. When a give-way boat is so close to a right-of-way boat, such that > the right-of-way boat cannot turn in either direction without immediately > touching the give-way boat, the give-way boat has violated her obligation > to keep clear. They do not have to touch in order to prove that Blue did > not keep clear. See Dave Perry's "Understanding The Racing Rules of > Sailing through 2016, page 96. In addition, the right-of-way boat must > take the appropriate action to avoid hitting the give-way boat, when it > appears that the give-way boat is not going to keep clear, after which she > can protest the give-way boat. > > There is no requirement for either boat to communicate with the other > boat, but it is prudent to do so. If Camelot had called to Blue to head > up, or yelled "leeward boat" or "no room", it might have been enough to > keep the boats from colliding. If Blue couldn't control her direction, she > could have called to Camelot to fall off, that she couldn't steer away, > Camelot might have been able to fall off and avoid the crash. She then > could have protested Blue. Since both boats broke rules of part 2 of the > Racing Rules of Sailing (Blue-Rule 11, Same tack Overlapped; Camelot-Rule > 14, Avoiding Contact), both boats should have been penalized by retiring > from the race (Rule 44.1(b). > Alan Bergen > C&C 35 Mk III Thirsty > Rose City YC > ****Portland**, **OR**** > > **** > > ** ** > > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.2240 / Virus Database: 2641/5740 - Release Date: 04/12/13 > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > CnC-List@cnc-list.com **** > > ** ** > > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.2240 / Virus Database: 2641/5740 - Release Date: 04/12/13 > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > CnC-List@cnc-list.com**** > ------------------------------ > > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.2240 / Virus Database: 2641/5742 - Release Date: 04/13/13* > *** > > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > > -- Jim Watts Paradigm Shift C&C 35 Mk III Victoria, BC _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
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