I got two seasons out of a blob of Vaseline. Hummingbird recommends using it to test locations for a transducer. It also prevents corrosion on battery posts and other metal.
Joel Aronson On Apr 15, 2013, at 12:37 AM, Jim Watts <paradigmat...@gmail.com> wrote: Ummm...you just stick the transducer in a jar of Vaseline? I'm not sure how this is going to work long-term. And why do you have large amounts of Vaseline? On 14 April 2013 11:01, Joel Aronson <joel.aron...@gmail.com> wrote: > Vaseline works for an inhull transducer. > > Joel Aronson > > > On Apr 14, 2013, at 11:31 AM, Jim Watts <paradigmat...@gmail.com> wrote: > > If going in-hull, you can test your location while in the water by placing > a baggie of water between the transducer and the hull. If it works like > that, it will work glued down. *This does not work if the boat is out of > the water*. I shouldn't have to say that, but I will because I have had a > couple of people do just that. > > FWIW, the transducer maker, Airmar, recommends epoxy, and specifically > warns against silicone. > > > On 13 April 2013 08:20, dwight veinot <dwightvei...@hfx.eastlink.ca>wrote: > >> ** ** ** >> >> Yes they do…very good point, excellent memory actually. I did not have >> to be concerned because I have an old 1974 design and the under bottom is >> solid and thick…I think even a bubble in that, and I know there are some >> because there was one beside the hole I cut to do the through hull mount, >> which may have had something to do with why it was not always reliable so >> you always have to find a spot when there are no voids in the solid lay up >> too, but at least if it doesn’t work you can move it fairly easily and you >> don’t leave a gaping hole behind. I got lucky first try**** >> >> ** ** >> >> Dwight Veinot**** >> >> C&C 35 MKII, Alianna**** >> >> Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS**** >> >> ** ** >> ------------------------------ >> >> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Russ >> & Melody >> *Sent:* April 13, 2013 10:59 AM >> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com >> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List New through hull transducer**** >> >> ** ** >> >> Hi Dwight, >> >> Don't these inside hull installations need to be in a solid layup area >> and not a cored hull area? >> >> I seemed to remember that detail being part of past discussions on this >> subject. >> >> ** **Cheers, Russ >> ** *Sweet *35 mk-1 >> >> At 12:55 AM 13/04/2013, you wrote: >> >> **** >> >> Based on my experience, I would say if it’s a depth transducer install it >> on the inside of your hull and either don’t cut a new hole or plug the one >> you have already. Find a nice spot on the inside, close where you want it >> located, clean the area with solvent, let it dry and then apply a really >> generous gob of Dow Corning silicone sealant and submerge the active face >> of the transducer in it while holding on a slight angle to make sure you >> don’t trap air bubbles, then press it down hard and hold there for a >> while. I did it that way based on information I got from this list because >> my Raymarine depth transducer was not reliable…it has worked flawlessly to >> over 200 feet (my boat draws about 6) for over 2 years and I have one less >> hole in the boat…I am happy >> >> Dwight Veinot >> C&C 35 MKII, Alianna >> Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS >> **** >> ------------------------------ >> >> *From:* CnC-List [ >> mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com<cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com>] >> *On Behalf Of *jmckay533 >> *Sent:* April 12, 2013 10:36 PM >> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com >> *Subject:* Stus-List New through hull transducer >> >> Good evening. I AM HOPING TO INSTALL A NEW THROUGH HULL TRANSDUCER this >> weekend. What marine sealant would you suggest? >> >> Thank you. >> >> John on Oxygen >> >> >> >> >> Sent from Samsung tablet >> >> >> >> -------- Original message -------- >> From: Brent Driedger <bren...@highspeedcrow.ca> >> Date: 04-12-2013 6:58 PM (GMT-05:00) >> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com >> Subject: Re: Stus-List Race Video >> >> I tend to agree Dwight. >> That's a gripping video and reminds me of a very similar situation I got >> myself into last year minus the crushed legs. I was being too aggressive, >> boats touched and although no protest came of it, I was at fault and should >> have bailed when I was getting squeezed out of the pack before the >> committee boat. >> On the deck after the race much discussion was held and I insisted I >> could not change course for I would have rammed the committee boat but >> later when the photos came out I realized I had plenty of time to abandon >> the start and not look like a knob. >> The point is at speed within lengths of the line and adrenaline is up >> with a bunch of fast boats a nose blow apart, it's easy to make a decision >> that you wished you hadn't after the fact and unfortunately the only >> solution to this is experience. >> On the plus side the event was educational, provided lively beer talk and >> no damage was done. >> >> Brent >> 27-5 >> **Lake Winnipeg** >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On 2013-04-12, at 5:25 PM, dwight veinot < dwightvei...@hfx.eastlink.ca> >> wrote: >> >> **** >> >> Blue was close hauled with lots of power, what looks like an >> uncoordinated crew and in close quarters. She was give way boat and it >> looks to me like she was barging the line hell bent to get across inside of >> what looks like the committee boat, and ahead and to windward of the >> fleet. If she went up hard she either had to tack away or risk ramming >> what I think is the committee boat. I can’t tell if the leeward boat had >> room to fall off safely to avoid collision with blue without making a >> collision with the boat below her, looks like she was being taken up too. I >> heard now up now up now up now up so someone on Blue knew they were being >> taken up but I don’t think the helmsman or the crew acted soon enough or >> fast enough. The helmsman’s effort to steer up seemed ineffective, not >> much of a rudder on that boat if you ask me. The mainsail trimmer >> tensioned for more close hauled course and looks like the jib trimmer did >> the same…seems like the crew did not know how to sail that boat under those >> conditions in close quarters…they did not appear to know what to expect >> from the boat and the crew…if I turned the wheel that aggressively on my 35 >> I feel certain she would go up, now I have to try that to find out for sure >> and ruin a perfectly nice beat some day. Haven’t raced in a while… what is >> in the rule about barging >> >> Dwight Veinot >> C&C 35 MKII, Alianna >> Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS >> **** >> ------------------------------ >> >> *From:* CnC-List [ >> mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com<cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com>] >> *On Behalf Of *Alan Bergen >> *Sent:* April 12, 2013 6:36 PM >> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com >> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Race Video >> >> After the preparatory signal (boats are now racing and must sail by the >> racing rules) but before the starting signal, the leeward boat can sail all >> the way up to head to wind. After the starting signal, she cannot sail >> higher than close hauled. Boats must still avoid contact if at all >> possible. Crossing the starting line has no effect on how rules 11 and 14 >> are applied. >> Alan Bergen >> C&C 35 Mk III Thirsty >> Rose City YC >> ****Portland**, **OR**** >> >> Alan, >> >> Does Dave Perry’s 2016 RRoS book clarify the difference, if any, between >> before the start and after crossing the starting line regarding Rule 11 and >> 14? >> >> It has been a while since I read Dave’s last RRoS book but I recall >> something about the right-of-way boat having more flexibility before the >> starting gun. >> >> Martin >> Calypso >> 1970 C&C 43 >> ****Seattle**** >> >> *From:* CnC-List [ >> mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com<cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com>] >> *On Behalf Of *Alan Bergen >> *Sent:* Friday, April 12, 2013 11:31 AM >> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com >> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Race Video >> >> Blue was allowed to sail her course until she was the give-way boat. As >> soon as she overlapped Camelot, she was the give-way boat, and had to keep >> clear. When a give-way boat is so close to a right-of-way boat, such that >> the right-of-way boat cannot turn in either direction without immediately >> touching the give-way boat, the give-way boat has violated her obligation >> to keep clear. They do not have to touch in order to prove that Blue did >> not keep clear. See Dave Perry's "Understanding The Racing Rules of >> Sailing through 2016, page 96. In addition, the right-of-way boat must >> take the appropriate action to avoid hitting the give-way boat, when it >> appears that the give-way boat is not going to keep clear, after which she >> can protest the give-way boat. >> >> There is no requirement for either boat to communicate with the other >> boat, but it is prudent to do so. If Camelot had called to Blue to head >> up, or yelled "leeward boat" or "no room", it might have been enough to >> keep the boats from colliding. If Blue couldn't control her direction, she >> could have called to Camelot to fall off, that she couldn't steer away, >> Camelot might have been able to fall off and avoid the crash. She then >> could have protested Blue. Since both boats broke rules of part 2 of the >> Racing Rules of Sailing (Blue-Rule 11, Same tack Overlapped; Camelot-Rule >> 14, Avoiding Contact), both boats should have been penalized by retiring >> from the race (Rule 44.1(b). >> Alan Bergen >> C&C 35 Mk III Thirsty >> Rose City YC >> ****Portland**, **OR**** >> >> **** >> >> ** ** >> >> No virus found in this message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 2012.0.2240 / Virus Database: 2641/5740 - Release Date: 04/12/13 >> _______________________________________________ >> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >> CnC-List@cnc-list.com **** >> >> ** ** >> >> No virus found in this message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 2012.0.2240 / Virus Database: 2641/5740 - Release Date: 04/12/13 >> _______________________________________________ >> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >> CnC-List@cnc-list.com**** >> ------------------------------ >> >> No virus found in this message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 2012.0.2240 / Virus Database: 2641/5742 - Release Date: 04/13/13 >> **** >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >> >> > > > -- > Jim Watts > Paradigm Shift > C&C 35 Mk III > Victoria, BC > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > > -- Jim Watts Paradigm Shift C&C 35 Mk III Victoria, BC _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
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