Just wanted to thank everyone who graciously responded to my request for pictures of a tiller equipped C&C. I've gotten everything I need to develop an understanding of how the tiller installation was accomplished. I won't be doing it exactly as the factory did but close. The help was invaluable. Thanks! Jack Downey
-----Original Message----- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2013 8:01 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: CnC-List Digest, Vol 90, Issue 77 Send CnC-List mailing list submissions to cnc-list@cnc-list.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com You can reach the person managing the list at cnc-list-ow...@cnc-list.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of CnC-List digest..." Today's Topics: 1. RE-constructing an HIN (Alex Giannelia) 2. Re: Trim piece on 30-2, 34+ and 37+ (Allan Rheaume) 3. Ozymandias For Sale (Alan Bergen) 4. Re: Ozymandias For Sale (Alan Bergen) 5. 2013 Northeast Rendezvous (Robert Gallagher) 6. Re: Trim piece on 30-2, 34+ and 37+ (allen) 7. Re: Midnight Mistress at Screwpile 2013 (Jake Brodersen) 8. Re: 33tep rebuild (Mark G) 9. Beagle 35 mk1? Sail no 350 (Rick Brass) 10. Re: Beagle 35 mk1? Sail no 350 (Chris Price) 11. Re: Corsica River Rendezvous - Weekend with Joe (Rick Brass) 12. Re: New Halyards for teh 38MKII (Jake Brodersen) 13. Re: Sailing Sunglasses Recommendations (Jake Brodersen) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2013 13:12:59 -0400 From: Alex Giannelia <a...@airsensing.com> To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Subject: Stus-List RE-constructing an HIN Message-ID: <1820d770a1e128438825b476052dffb0010bed837...@vmbx111.ihostexchange.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ALEX GIANNELIA CC 35-II (1974) WILL BE RENAMED ON THE HARD SINCE NOV. 2006 Toronto Ontario ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2013 10:58:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Allan Rheaume <drumroll30m...@yahoo.ca> To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Subject: Re: Stus-List Trim piece on 30-2, 34+ and 37+ Message-ID: <1374688735.44892.yahoomail...@web160805.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Allen, ???????? The teak piece is attached with flat head machine screws, washers and nylock nuts on the underside. 3/8" teak bungs hide the screw heads. I broke the very same pieces that you have on more than one occasion so I drilled through the glass and into those little ears and installed small stainless wood screws into them (one on each side). Allan Rheaume Drumroll 30-2 #90 ________________________________ From: allen <allenmi...@earthlink.net> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 2:54:47 PM Subject: Stus-List Trim piece on 30-2, 34+ and 37+ On Septima and all our models with the fold down transom and built in ladder, there is a piece of teak trim the finishes off the top of the door when the ladder is up.? It is a thin piece and it has circular cutouts where it fits around the step rails.?Those little ears on the outside of the rails?break very easily and aren't easily repaired.? I have a 1 1/4 inch piece of teak and have machined it to replicate the broken pieces.? Now, there are three holes in the old piece where the attachment devices go.? The piece has been off the boat so long I can't remember how it was attached.? Please help jog my memory. ? Allen Miles S/V Septima C&C 30-2 Hampton, VA ? _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20130724/65 4a0a92/attachment-0001.html> ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2013 18:26:07 +0000 (UTC) From: Alan Bergen <alan-at-h...@comcast.net> To: C&C Photoalbum email list <CnC-list@cnc-list.com> Subject: Stus-List Ozymandias For Sale Message-ID: <314418779.1417533.1374690367794.javamail.r...@sz0030a.emeryville.ca.mail.co mcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Terry Johnson is selling his C&C 34. This is a great boat - well maintained and well equipped. He'll list it with a broker if it isn't sold soon, and the price will go up. You can reach Terry at: tj...@comcast.net. Boat is located in the Portland area. Alan Bergen C&C 35 Mk III Thirsty Rose City YC Portland, OR -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Allen From: Allan Rheaume Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2013 1:58 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Trim piece on 30-2, 34+ and 37+ Allen, The teak piece is attached with flat head machine screws, washers and nylock nuts on the underside. 3/8" teak bungs hide the screw heads. I broke the very same pieces that you have on more than one occasion so I drilled through the glass and into those little ears and installed small stainless wood screws into them (one on each side). Allan Rheaume Drumroll 30-2 #90 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- From: allen <allenmi...@earthlink.net> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 2:54:47 PM Subject: Stus-List Trim piece on 30-2, 34+ and 37+ On Septima and all our models with the fold down transom and built in ladder, there is a piece of teak trim the finishes off the top of the door when the ladder is up. It is a thin piece and it has circular cutouts where it fits around the step rails. Those little ears on the outside of the rails break very easily and aren't easily repaired. I have a 1 1/4 inch piece of teak and have machined it to replicate the broken pieces. Now, there are three holes in the old piece where the attachment devices go. The piece has been off the boat so long I can't remember how it was attached. Please help jog my memory. Allen Miles S/V Septima C&C 30-2 Hampton, VA _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Jake Jake Brodersen C&C 35 Mk-III Midnight Mistress Hampton VA cid:image001.png@01CE3D06.5A990940 From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Josh Muckley Sent: Monday, July 22, 2013 8:05 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Midnight Mistress at Screwpile 2013 Congrats to Jake and Pat Brodersen for making a fantastic showing on board Midnight Mistress (C&C 35-3) at the Screwpile Lighthouse Challenge in Solomons, MD. So far it looks like a 5 out of 5 win for the series over the last two days. There is one more day and as many as 3 more races. Hopefully they can continue to represent the C&C line with grace and speed. Well done Jake. Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk 1989 C&C 37+ Solomons, MD -- When privacy matters. http://www.secure-my-email.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Scroll down and click the link to "subscribe now" as if to subscribe to this list. Near the top is a link to the "CnC-List archives". I don't believe there is a way to search the entire archives. You have to click each month and scan through the subjects. However, I can tell you from experience that the contents of this list comes up occasionally in Google searches. Mark ----- Original Message ----- From: andrew rothweiler To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Wed, 24 Jul 2013 12:34:32 -0000 (UTC) Subject: Stus-List 33tep rebuild Thank you for the responses and info about the 33-2 potential mast step rebuild. A previous contributer was mentioned, who described his first hand experience with this issue, and the related cost.Is there a way to search older posts to try to locate this post? Do you think that if a boat does not exihibit this mast step problem right now (if that what the survey shows when it's done in the next week or so), that the problem could still occur in the future? Or is it a case in which if the problem hasn't shown up by now, this particular boat will likely not have the problem later? Thank you again for your help and courtesy. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20130725/88 ec6098/attachment-0001.html> ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2013 22:01:30 -0400 From: "Rick Brass" <rickbr...@earthlink.net> To: <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Subject: Stus-List Beagle 35 mk1? Sail no 350 Message-ID: <010b01ce88da$e260dd10$a7229730$@net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" As I was sailing into the Magethy River this evening, I happened upon a gaggle of boats maneuvering before the start of a Wednesday evening race. One of the boats was easily recognizable as a C&C 35 (I presume it was a Mk1 because it had no stars and daggers on the end of the cove stripes) using sail number 350. I maneuvered to try to stay out of his way, but each time I changed direction, he tacked and I was in the way again. The boat looked awfully good during the start of the race. If the owner is on the list, I want to apologize for the dance we did before your start. Rick Brass Imzadi C&C 38 mk1 Washington, NC -----Original Message----- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Alex Giannelia Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2013 1:13 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List RE-constructing an HIN ALEX GIANNELIA CC 35-II (1974) WILL BE RENAMED ON THE HARD SINCE NOV. 2006 Toronto Ontario _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2013 02:08:11 +0000 (UTC) From: Chris Price <iceboa...@comcast.net> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Beagle 35 mk1? Sail no 350 Message-ID: <634195245.789296.1374718091506.javamail.r...@sz0205a.westchester.pa.mail.co mcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Beagle's a Mk II and has raced very successfully on the Magothy for many years. Where are you staying on the Magothy? I'll be down there on Friday for a cruise/ race? through Monday. My boat is in Black Hole Creek. Chris Price Pradel 35 Mk I ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Brass" <rickbr...@earthlink.net> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2013 10:01:30 PM Subject: Stus-List Beagle 35 mk1? Sail no 350 As I was sailing into the Magethy River this evening, I happened upon a gaggle of boats maneuvering before the start of a Wednesday evening race. One of the boats was easily recognizable as a C&C 35 (I presume it was a Mk1 because it had no stars and daggers on the end of the cove stripes) using sail number 350. I maneuvered to try to stay out of his way, but each time I changed direction, he tacked and I was in the way again. The boat looked awfully good during the start of the race. If the owner is on the list, I want to apologize for the dance we did before your start. Rick Brass Imzadi C&C 38 mk1 Washington, NC -----Original Message----- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Alex Giannelia Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2013 1:13 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List RE-constructing an HIN ALEX GIANNELIA CC 35-II (1974) WILL BE RENAMED ON THE HARD SINCE NOV. 2006 Toronto Ontario _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Jake Jake Brodersen C&C 35 Mk-III Midnight Mistress Hampton VA cid:image001.png@01CE3D06.5A990940 From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Tim Goodyear Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2013 9:06 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List New Halyards for teh 38MKII I just got 5/16 Endura Braid (SK75 Dyneema) for my main halyard from Defender @ $350 including splices and shackle - I have a smaller boat, but I am happy with how its working. Jib halyards are 5/16 Ultra Tech (Technora core - similar to Kevlar) and I am pretty happy with their performance too. We raced in 18-20 last weekend and no issues once adjusted to wind speed. You may not want to step down to 5/16, but you probably don't need 7/16 and 3/8 is fine for handling. Tim Mojito C&C 35-3 Branford, CT On Sat, Jul 20, 2013 at 7:05 PM, Ron Casciato <rjcasci...@comcast.net> wrote: Group: I am considering replacing my 7/16" "low stretch" (NER) halyards for both main and Jib with something that is "no stretch"...... We raced last Wednesday in 22-25kts and both the Main and Jib stretched so as to make the jib trim really edgy. The Cunningham made up the difference in the main, but we finally broke the jib shackle and had to route a spare in a hurry...... We recovered OK, but I think better halyards are in order. The big problem is the "sticker shock" for Dyneema or similar material.... two halyards using Dyneema SK90 estimated cost is near $1000. Has anyone faced this issue and how did you resolve it. Anyone have any suggestions on "reasonable priced" high tech line? Thanks, Ron C. 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The transition lenses never get dark enough, especially when in a car or when wearing a hat. Every time I go below and come back topside, the instant brightness kills me. It takes a couple of minutes for them to readjust. I should consider leaving them topside when I go below?. Jake Jake Brodersen C&C 35 Mk-III Midnight Mistress Hampton VA cid:image001.png@01CE3D06.5A990940 From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Rick Brass Sent: Monday, July 22, 2013 5:14 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Sailing Sunglasses Recommendations Transition lenses don?t work well in the sunny south. The pair I had never got dark enough to deal with the bright sunshine, or the glare ? even though the grade of transition lens I bought was supposed to be made for that purpose.. Rick Brass Washington, NC From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Alan Bergen Sent: Monday, July 22, 2013 3:35 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Sailing Sunglasses Recommendations If you wear prescription glasses, get transition lenses with an anti-reflective coating. I've been using them for years, and they work great. Alan Bergen C&C 35 Mk III Thirsty Rose City YC Portland, OR -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20130725/a3 3aa6d3/attachment.html> -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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