Consider buying a used #2 from Bacon or others and try it out before investing big?
John Sent from my iPad > On Oct 9, 2013, at 10:57 AM, OldSteveH <oldste...@sympatico.ca> wrote: > > Bob I think the 34 is the same albeit more tender than the 30-1. > My observations over three similar races showed however that if wind is > 15-20 true and I'm faced with a choice between #1 and #3 due to having no > #2, I will go with the #1 and implement Dennis' excellent list of management > strategies to keep the boat on its feet. > Others here seem to be agree - reef first, change headsail last. Dennis' > list in between. > > Per David K note about coach roof track - I have tracks and cars (sounds > like you just have the tracks) on coach roof for the #3. > They allow the sail to be sheeted in really well (never heard the term blade > before - I like it) and the boat points well with this sail up. Pointing is > not why we got smoked a few weeks ago. Like Bob refers to I was lazy and > went straight to the 3, had the best start of the fleet and then watched > everyone just blow by and walk away from us. Later on they were all > overpowered and still having the #3 up we caught up but alas too little too > late. That's how this little experiment started and I have learned a lot in > pushing the envelope so to speak and in reading the excellent advice on this > list group. In two subsequent races with the #1, reefing and other > strategies we placed much better under similar conditions, even one race > where it was blowing 20 consistently. All this leaves me at the same point > as last fall - do I invest in a #2 for next year? > > Isn't money wonderful, it can solve all problems . . . ;-) > > Cheers, > > > Steve Hood > S/V Diamond Girl > C&C 34 > Lions Head ON > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2013 23:57:08 -0300 > From: Robert Abbott <robertabb...@eastlink.ca> > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: Stus-List C&C 34 > Message-ID: <5254c604.3040...@eastlink.ca> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Gary: > If a C&C 30-1 goes to a #3 at 20 knts true, my 32 needs to be there as > well with a #3.....the 32 is in its comfort zone at about 15, maybe 20 > deg angle, whatever sail is up....any more than 20 degs, you are not > efficient. If I were not so lazy, or so old, I would do more sail > changes. I am both, so I sail with a 135%. > > Bob Abbott > AZURA > C&C 32 - 84 > Halifax, N.S. > > >> On 2013/10/08 11:42 AM, Gary Nylander wrote: >> No controversy. He was overpowered. 18 to 20 true is 24 to 26 >> apparent. A big genoa and no reef is going to set the boat on its >> side, even with a shoe! >> >> I have the stiffest C&C, a 30-1. I drop to the number 2 (about 140) >> before 15 true, then reef. Then drop to the number 3 at about 20 true >> (I only have one reef - we are on the Chesapeake). Over 20 degrees >> with the old style keel and rudder (think fat shark) loses efficiency, >> promotes round-ups and gets everybody wet. >> >> Gary Nylander >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Abbott" >> <robertabb...@eastlink.ca> >> To: <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >> Cc: "OldSteveH" <oldste...@sympatico.ca> >> Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 10:28 AM >> Subject: Stus-List C&C 34 >> >> >>> Steve: >>> >>> I am going to throw one at the list that should raise some >>> controversy. There was a C&C 34 at our club....the owner was a >>> coastal cruiser, felt the boat was a little tender for that purpose >>> so he had a 'shoe added to the keel' . >>> >>> We were both in Halifax harbor....about 18 to 20 knts true and 3' >>> seas.....I only had my 110% Sobstad up and he had a larger headsail >>> (I count not be sure if it was a 135% or 150%) and his main sail. >>> >>> The wind was building.....he was coming in, I was going out. When we >>> passed each other, he turned around to come back with me upwind. >>> .....his boat was overpowered......flogging his main.....rounding up >>> in the gusts. >>> >>> I constantly pulled away from him.....he hung in for about 20 minutes >>> and then gave up. >>> >>> I can't speak for the 34 but my boat can not carry a 150% (plus a >>> main) in 20 knts true. >>> >>> Let the fun begin. >>> >>> Bob Abbott\ >>> AZURA >>> C&C 32 - 84 >>> Halifax, N.S. > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > CnC-List@cnc-list.com _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
