Hi Derek (s)
I can tell you it is not a balsa core, the keel sump under the mast step is filled with a high density foam of some sort. Still smells bad tho'

Graham Collins
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On 2013-10-12 8:49 AM, Derek Leck wrote:
What a coincidence Derek. My name is Derek and I have the exact same boat and 
exact same problem. Apparently our boats have a defective keel sump. This is 
the area under the mast step.  What I have learned is that there is a balsa 
wood core within the keel sump area. After years of use, especially the 
stresses of racing, grounding etc. the fiberglass structure of the keel sump 
becomes soft.  Now here comes the part you really don't want to hear. When this 
sump area gets weak the entire load of your rig, mast weight, stay tension, 
sailing loads etc, are no longer dispersed. Instead, all this force is directed 
in a very vulnerable area which is where the keel stub meets the hull. When you 
pull the boat you will most likely find a crack in your hull in this area. Just 
in front of the keel. This is why you are getting water in the bilge. The nasty 
water is due to the balsa wood core rotting. I know it can smell terrible!

The fix is substantial and that exterior crack is the least of our worries. ( 
This year will be the third attempt to  correct my issue).  Previous attempts 
were a wast of time since they were merely cosmetic. As I understand the keel 
will need to be dropped, keel sump area has to be cut out and rebuilt. The 
entire area beneath the mast step should be reinforced with additional glass 
work and possibly aluminum or stainless plates.  My boat comes out this Monday 
and we'll find out exactly the extent of damages and cost to repair.

I will keep you informed of my progress and I would like to hear about yours.  
Feel free to reach out to me anytime.

Good luck!

P.S.  Love my boat!!!!!  (When it's not leaking).



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On Oct 12, 2013, at 12:36 AM, "Derek Stanger" 
<derek.stan...@yahoo.ca<mailto:derek.stan...@yahoo.ca>> wrote:

Hello to all.  My first post.

I'm the new owner of a previously well loved C&C 33 mkii 1985.  I'm going 
through I think the normal new boat challenges/headaches/expenses...but in 
particular a couple that I'd like some advice on:

1.  Upon cleaning a really smelly,slimy bilge today (salt water, Vancouver BC) I noticed 
water spraying into the bilge from an old screw hole (low in the bilge, on forward side, 
used for holding bilge line).  It stopped spraying/dribbling after approx. 10 min (and a 
bit of a panic).  I'm assuming the "putty" fill (as shown in the owners manual) 
forward of the bilge wall might have voids that fill with the raising water in the bilge? 
 When the bilge is emptied the water forward has some head to it and comes back into the 
bilge.  Does this all make sense?  Should I be concerned?  What can I do?

2.  With winter arriving, I've been trying to plug into shore power.  
Unfortunately our service is only 15 Amps.  All I have running is a smart 
charger (drawing 5 amps at 120V) and a saucer heater drawing 0.7 amps.  The 
breaker on the shore panel keeps tripping.  I checked the charger by plugging 
it in direct...and all fine.  I bought a new cable with a more positive 
connection to the pigtail.  To no avail.  So, I think I have a problem on the 
boat.  Any suggestions?

Thanks.  Any thoughts appreciated.

Derek Stanger
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