Chuck, >From what I have seen the "younger generation" that own cruising boats seem to have income levels / life styles that allow / require them to pay the yards for the work to be done. Clearly this is not the 99%
However, I firmly believe that both Gary Jobson and Nick Hayes are spot on when they proclaim that Clubs and Community Sailing Organisations (and I paraphrase) must own the boats and make them available at reasonable cost members etc. I am a member of a small yacht club that is dedicated to sailing - no pool, tennis courts, to distract us. Believe it or not , no bar either, though we do now have a permit so we can set up temporary bars. We as a club own 8 Ideal 18 keelboats. 6 Club 420's (used by our Jr Program and local High Schools), 10 Optimists, 9 Dyer Dhows (for Frostbiting). This fleet of boats allows younger, and older folks to sail at a much lower cost than ownership. Jonathan Thomson Indigo - 35Mk III On the hard in Milford CT _____ From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Chuck S Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2013 4:57 PM To: Ronald B. Frerker; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Getting young people into sailing? Yes, we need to get younger people into sailing and cruising and racing. How can that be done? I noticed at my boatyard or at the dock, I'm probably the youngest boatowner working on any sailboat and I'll be 60 next summer. There is one 30 year old who bought a desperation sale Hunter last Spring. Most of my sailing friends are my age or older. Most of the powerboaters here are our age too. I still keep up on maintenance. Just spent $450 on three new Harken blocks to replace worn out mainsheet system. Waited too long and the sheaves are dumping bearings. Took advantage of a 15% off sale, but it cost that much for a Harken fiddle block w jamcleat and two single blocks rated for my boat. Believe me, I shopped around and this was the best deal. Maybe the younger generation is smarter than us? The costs just to own my boat, slip fees, insurance, winter storage, bottom paint, hardware, sails, etc, have increased so much in 10 years of ownership, it's really hard to justify. No wonder boats are selling cheap. I remember crying when bottom paint was $100/gal. Now it's twice that. Any parts w metal are 3 to 5 times the cost they used to be. Guess I'll be working till I fall overboard? Chuck Resolute 1990 C&C 34R Atlantic City, NJ _____ From: "Ronald B. Frerker" <rbfrer...@yahoo.com> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2013 11:26:07 AM Subject: Re: Stus-List 1972 35 for sale near Baltimore A friend sold one here for about the same, but it had the old A-4 and no new wiring or cushions. I was depressed about that! Now I'm really down. He was ready to give it to charity. We got to find a way to get younger folks into the sport just so we can sell our boats when they ship us off to the home. Ron Wild Cheri STL On Tuesday, October 29, 2013 9:43 AM, "djhaug...@juno.com" <djhaug...@juno.com> wrote: could be abandoned at the yard and they are trying to recoup their losses? ---------- Original Message ---------- From: "Della Barba, Joe" <joe.della.ba...@ssa.gov> To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Subject: Re: Stus-List 1972 35 for sale near Baltimore Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2013 10:35:18 -0400 My boat must be worth $29.95 at most then :-( 1972 C&C sailboat 35ft NEW DEISEL, fuel tank and gauges $8,000-$12,000 here. , cushions redone, $2,000-$,5000 here. head, holding tank new, all new wiring, hatch AC, new vinal teak holly sole floor, sails main jib 110, 130, 160. Bottom done in spring, boot stripe done in spring. Port lights rebedded last fall by marina. Must see. Call me daytime @ 609-743-7172 Not clear on the sails as to age or condition. This boat is selling for barely twice the scrap value of the lead with a frigging new diesel????? Excuse me while I get depressed. Just remembered I had a fantastic sail home from the club Sunday. Happier now :-) Joe Della Barba Coquina C&C 35 MK I From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of djhaug...@juno.com Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2013 10:15 AM To: capt...@yahoo.com; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List 1972 35 for sale near Baltimore oooooh boy, sounds like their is a deeper story here... way too much bling for $8K Soft decks? needs a new keel? New Cushions throughout would be $2500 - $3500 on there own. The vinyl (vinal) teak and holly sole kinda scares me. I saw this at the boat show. reminded me of the peel and stick cheapo rental property tiles that are typically used to hide something. I guess good old boat just did a favorable article on this stuff though. so, my opinion is just that, completely subjective. New diesel fuel, or a new diesel engine? I'm curious... LOL Danny ---------- Original Message ---------- From: "Dennis C." <capt...@yahoo.com> To: CnClist <CnC-List@cnc-list.com> Subject: Stus-List 1972 35 for sale near Baltimore Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2013 06:17:39 -0700 (PDT) http://southjersey.craigslist.org/boa/4071917706.html _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com <http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/> CnC-List@cnc-list.com _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
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