My ancient Black and Decker batteries from 1993 work great. My Ryobi drill 
battery died in about a month after getting it ☹ So far my Craftsman 19.2 volt 
drill is doing very well.

Joe Della Barba

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Rich Knowles
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 12:35 PM
To: Dennis C.; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Anchoring floorboards-battery powered drill/drivers

The Milwaukee line of cordless tools has served me very well for the last two 
years. The 12v small drill is exceptional and fits well in tool bags.

Rich

On Nov 8, 2013, at 13:16, "Dennis C." 
<capt...@yahoo.com<mailto:capt...@yahoo.com>> wrote:
I got soured on Dewalt cordless products years ago.  Got tired of the batteries 
dying.  Now use Makita products and love them.  Still like Dewalt corded tools, 
however.

If you want the best, get a Metabo.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA


On Friday, November 8, 2013 10:48 AM, Chuck S 
<cscheaf...@comcast.net<mailto:cscheaf...@comcast.net>> wrote:
Another point.  I've always liked battery powered Drill/drivers.  Started w 9V, 
then 12V, then 14V, then 18V.

Work bought me a DeWalt Kit that has little 12V drill/drivers w lithium-ion 
batteries.  Even though they are smaller, they have more torque than my older, 
bigger, bulkier 18V Ryobi.  The newer batteries last longer and hold a charge 
for months riding in my truck.  Amazingly reliable.  Now I keep a driver, a set 
of bits and set of tips and small sockets in my car, and they make jobs so-o 
easy, I think everyone should have one.

Removing all the floorboards of a 30 footer with a battery powered driver and 
the right tip would take less than 15 minutes.
Chuck
Resolute
1990 C&C 34R
Atlantic City, NJ
________________________________
From: "Chuck S" <cscheaf...@comcast.net<mailto:cscheaf...@comcast.net>>
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Sent: Friday, November 8, 2013 11:24:34 AM
Subject: Re: Stus-List Anchoring floorboards - was Re:  floorboards
Home Depot and Lowes stock square drive (Robertson) fasteners here in the US.
I have several assorted tip kits that fit a battery powered drill/driver or a 
common 4 in 1 hand driver.  The kits include straight, phillips, square, torx, 
allen.  Harbor Freight sells tools cheap enough, you can setup a "common 
driver" and keep one on the boat, one in the car and one at home.
Chuck
Resolute
1990 C&C 34R
Atlantic City, NJ
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From: "Steve Thomas" <sthom...@sympatico.ca<mailto:sthom...@sympatico.ca>>
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Sent: Friday, November 8, 2013 11:07:50 AM
Subject: Re: Stus-List Anchoring floorboards - was Re:  floorboards
"common driver"

Robertson head screws are common here.
Don't know why they never caught on in the States.

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com]On Behalf Of Indigo
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 10:52 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Subject: Re: Stus-List Anchoring floorboards - was Re: floorboards
If the objective is to be able to get the floorboards up quickly, I would be 
very reluctant to use any fastening that can't  be undone with a common driver 
( kept in my case in the top drawer of the chart table) or with no tools at all

My 2cents fwiw

Jonathan
Indigo
--
Jonathan
Indigo C&C 35III
SOUTHPORT CT

On Nov 8, 2013, at 8:05, Steve Thomas 
<sthom...@sympatico.ca<mailto:sthom...@sympatico.ca>> wrote:
Robertson head screws are much less likely to deform so that you can't remove 
them, so long as you don't use an undersize screwdriver. You are less likely to 
have to resort to some sort of alternate extraction device with Robertson head 
screws. They are way better than Phillips or slot heads in transferring torque 
from the screwdriver to the screw. In my opinion they are better in all 
applications except for assembly line work, where speed of assembly is the 
overriding concern, and where the engineers don't care if it is later difficult 
to remove them. The only thing I would do is make sure that they are stainless 
or bronze, and check them once in a while if you are concerned that they will 
fill up with dirt. That is not something that is likely to happen quickly.

Virtually every screw used to fasten anything that is connected to the hull of 
my boat has required re-tightening at some time. There must be a lot of flexing 
going on that is not obvious when actually sailing the boat.

Steve Thomas
1978 C&C MKIII

-----Original Message-----
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com]On Behalf Of M Bod
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 7:11 AM
To: C&C list
Subject: Stus-List Anchoring floorboards - was Re: floorboards
This discussion leads me to a question.

Looking at the CS 30 I had a really tough time getting under the floorboards - 
the Robertson head screws were full of dirt an it was very difficult to get 
many of the screws out.
I had to use a little dental tool I'd brought with me to gouge the dirt out of 
each hole to make space for the screwdriver head.
I'd hate to be trying to do that if I was in an emergency that necessitated 
access!

Any better suggestions? Would you just go with a slot screw? Any better ideas - 
still seems to me you might be frantically trying to find a problem and the 
sheer number of screws could be overwhelming.

Mark


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