Andrew:
After sailing on both boats, I wouldn't recommend you make your decision
based on PHRF ratings. Both boats will sail to their numbers with the
right crew.
A little story to help put things into perspective.....a few seasons
back, I crewed on Beneteau 49 at our club for some of the Wednesday
night races (around the cans, short courses).....well, given that the
B49 was the heaviest displacement boat in the fleet, we normally
finished last or second last.....sometimes we would beat one other boat
in the fleet, can't t remember the make, a 40 odd footer family sailed
with young kids. The lighter displacement boats, no matter how they
were crewed, simply had an advantage over us on short courses. A little
puff, and they accelerate regardless of the big sail area of the the B49.
Don't know if this helps?
Rob Abbott
AZURA
C&C 32 -84
Halifax, N.S.
PS: Now after the race(s), the B49 had cabin heat, hot popcorn from
the microwave, plenty of adult beverages, the Playboy channel on the big
screen TV, other 'eye candy', in high Summer in bikinis.....finishing
last had it's benefits, I guess.
*From:*CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of
*andrew rothweiler
*Sent:* Friday, January 10, 2014 7:29 PM
*To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
*Subject:* Stus-List Comparing boats for purchase
Hello All,
Requesting some advice about interpreting data/stats on 2 boats I'm
considering for purchase. Having a boat that has the traveler and
genoa winches easy to reach from behind the helm is a key factor for
me so that control/single handing will be easier.
Also, I'm using PHRF numbers to help determine which boat might
be more competitive in club races.
So the two boats are a C&C 35-2 and a CS 36T.
The stats I'm using are from the PHRF site and SailboataData.com:
(don't know how this chart will come out on the forum)
LOA LWL B D SA DISP SA/DISP
DISP/LWL FORE/MAIN SAIL AREAS
C&C 35-2 PHRF 123-139-126 35' 30.77 10.58 5.58 629sf
13,800 17.56 224.34 352.5/276.75
CS 36T PHRF 123-135-126 36.5 29.92 11.5 6.35 640sf
15,500 16.53 258.34 367.5/272.53
My main question is how can the CS36 have a nearly identical PHRF to
the C&C when the CS 1) weighs almost 2,000lbs more and 2) doesn't
compensate for the weight with a lot more sail area, the total sail
areas being almost the same?
What other factors must be considered in understanding why a similar
size boat with almost the same waterline and sail area but weighs a
ton more has the same PHRF? What am I missing? Which of the two
boats would do better in club races and around the marks?
Thanks in advance for your help in understanding this.
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