That's what I was trying to say, Rich. I think when you get the iPad that has 
cell service it also has a dedicated GPS installed as well. That makes it work 
well offshore, out of cell range.

Andy
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On Jan 16, 2014, at 22:23, Rich Knowles <r...@sailpower.ca> wrote:

> I don't understand. 3 or 4 4G cell capability Is cell coverage.
> 
> Rich
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> On Jan 16, 2014, at 10:56 PM, Andrew Burton <a.burton.sai...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> You don't
>  Need cell coverage for the iPad to work as a plotter as long as you've got 3 
> or 4G cell capability. I guess the farthest offshore was just between Bermuda 
> and the Virgins. 
> 
> Andy
> C&C 40
> Peregrine
> 
> Andrew Burton
> 61 W Narragansett
> Newport, RI 
> USA    02840
> 
> http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
> +401 965-5260
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> On Jan 16, 2014, at 20:40, Brad Crawford <bcrawf7...@comcast.net> wrote:
> 
>> Andrew,
>> I have used my iPad most of the time as a chartplotter also, using 
>> Navionics, we also carry back up paper charts.  So far our long distance 
>> trips have been to the San Juan islands and Gulf Islands of British 
>> Columbia.  Just out of curiosity, how far off shore have you used your iPad 
>> as a navigational tool, and have you always had cell coverage.
>> 
>> Brad
>> C&C 36
>> Dora Pearl 
>> Seattle
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>> On Jan 16, 2014, at 6:19 AM, Andrew Burton <a.burton.sai...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Since getting my iPad a couple of years ago, I haven't pulled out a paper 
>>> chart once. As you say, It's a great tool.
>>> I have to admit that my sextant hasn't accompanied me on a passage since 
>>> about 2007 or 50,000 miles ago. I carry spare GPSs, but in the back of my 
>>> mind always is the possibility that the whole system may go down and then 
>>> what do I do? Well, I'm pretty confident of my ability to keep a good DR 
>>> and EP, and in my ability to stay out of trouble when approaching a 
>>> shoreline if I'm not confident of my position (which is pretty much always).
>>> 
>>> The bottom line is, I think that learning piloting--coastal navigation, 
>>> etc--is a higher priority than learning to use a sextant. 
>>> 
>>> One little trick when approaching a shoreline without a position fix for 
>>> some time is to steer to one side of where you want to go. That way when 
>>> you see land, you know which way to turn to make your port. So if I want to 
>>> get to Charleston, I may aim for Hilton Head and when I see  land, or it 
>>> starts getting shallow, I know to turn north in order to get to Charleston. 
>>> If I aim straight for where I want to go, and miss, I'm not sure which 
>>> direction to turn, the land being pretty featureless from offshore. This 
>>> tip is courtesy of Chichester from when he was flying his Gypsy Moth 
>>> biplane.
>>> 
>>> Andy
>>> C&C 40
>>> Peregrine
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 9:14 AM, Marek Dziedzic <dziedzi...@hotmail.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>>> I would say Speed first. It gives you enough that you can navigate 
>>>> (assuming that you have a compass (and a watch)).
>>>>  
>>>> I would drop Stereo from this list (we never have it on; I like the sound 
>>>> of sailing – I hope this does not open a can of worms)
>>>>  
>>>> I would put a GPS ahead of the autopilot, probably, mainly, because of the 
>>>> costs associated.
>>>>  
>>>> Marek
>>>>  
>>>> > In order?
>>>> > 1 Depth
>>>> > 2 VHF
>>>> > 3 Stereo
>>>> >4 Autopilot
>>>> > 4 GPS
>>>> > 5 Plotter
>>>> > 6 Speed
>>>> > 7 wind
>>>> > 8 radar or AIS, depending on area of use; offshore, I'm not sure that AIS
>>>> > isn't the more valuable tool
>>>> > 9 SSB
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