Dwight, Are we getting a wee bit cranky?
Mike -----Original Message----- From: CnC-List on behalf of dwight via CnC-List Sent: Mon 02/06/2014 5:52 PM To: wiscomik...@yahoo.com; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List LF 38 Mast Wedge Dimensions THAT'S 6 OR 7 TIMES FOR THE SAME EMAIL, I HOPE YOU GET SOME ANSWERS _____ From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of wiscomik...@yahoo.com via CnC-List Sent: June 2, 2014 3:44 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List LF 38 Mast Wedge Dimensions Hi all, I'm launching this Friday (finally) and need to cut some new mast wedges for my LF 38. What is the approximate gap between the mast and the collar? Thanks Mike LF 38 Interlude _____ From: via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>; To: <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>; Subject: CnC-List Digest, Vol 101, Issue 3 Sent: Mon, Jun 2, 2014 4:00:03 PM Send CnC-List mailing list submissions to cnc-list@cnc-list.com <javascript:return> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com <javascript:return> You can reach the person managing the list at cnc-list-ow...@cnc-list.com <javascript:return> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of CnC-List digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: ELECTRIC YACHT LAUNCH! (Ken Heaton via CnC-List) 2. ELECTRIC YACHT LAUNCH! (Alex Giannelia via CnC-List) 3. Re: Can anyone identify the class of this boat? (Chris Price via CnC-List) 4. Re: Can anyone identify the class of this boat? (Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2014 09:25:08 -0300 From: Ken Heaton via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com <javascript:return> > To: Alex Giannelia <a...@airsensing.com <javascript:return> >, cnc-list <cnc-list@cnc-list.com <javascript:return> > Subject: Re: Stus-List ELECTRIC YACHT LAUNCH! Message-ID: <CAAbfP6R7kui691Q57+b2CaNkZz_rM2pcxCQDdt+=5fgk8k7...@mail.gmail.com <javascript:return> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Hi Alex, 5) Recharging at my club is a bit of a challenge because it looks like the 15A it needs is not being delivered at my dockside station, unlike the power supply I had at the yard. My installer recommended using a y-splitter to provide a plug in into 2 15A outlets combining into my 1 30A inlet cable, what does the list think? Be very careful when you do this. It can work but can also be dangerous. Single phase electrical services have two different hots in 180 degree opposite phase to each other. Generally, half the outlets in the marina will be on one phase and the other half on the opposite phase. If you end up with your "Y" combiner on opposite phases there will be a very big bang before the breaker trips as you will effectively dead short the two hot phases of the system together. Generally all the odd numbered circuits will be on one phase and the even on the opposite but this isn't always true, especially if it is a small panel. You will have to test this test this by using an AC voltmeter that is rated for at least 250 volts AC to measure the voltage between the two outlets you want to share, measuring between the two hots (the small flat opening, the larger flat one is the neutral and the "D" or 'U" shaped one is the safety ground). If they are on the same phase the meter will read 0 volts and you can use those two outlets. If they are on opposite phases the meter will read 240 volts (or so) and you can't use those, you will have to keep testing until you find a pair on the same phase. They probably won't be next to each other as it is usual for adjacent outlets to be on opposite phases. Three phase services are a bit more complicated, the outlet numbering per phase will be different, but the results will be the same, the voltmeter between outlets on the same phase will read 0 volts, on different phases will read 208 volts (or thereabouts). You want both legs of your "Y" combiner in the same phase, every time, for this to work. You will probably have an issue with helpful people unplugging one side of your adapter and plugging it in to a different outlet, for whatever reason, with nasty results. You will have to come up with a way to prevent them from doing this. I hope my explanation is clear? Ken H. On 2 June 2014 05:56, Alex Giannelia via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com <javascript:return> > wrote: > Yesterday, after 7.5 years on the hard, we launched and enjoyed our maiden > voyage under electric power. > > > > Now, I have to clean up the below decks which took the brunt of the load > of dirt etc. caused by all the glass and deck work but at least we are in > the water! > > > > Now, for a few notes as to how she performed > > > > 1) So quiet and smooth at low RPM that you don?t even know you are > running the engine, until you look out the back and see the prop wash > swirls. > > 2) Below 1000 RPM hardly noticeable > > 3) Above 1000 RPM we encountered some vibration which we surmised > was due to imperfect alignment related as well to being on the hard for so > long, so we will re-align in a week etc. till this goes away. > > 4) The stuffing box was adjusted at the dock to just tighter than no > drips when not turning. Under power, initially no temperature rise noted > until about 20 minutes. As there was hardly any water dripping while > turning, I then slowly loosened it to 1 drip per 20 seconds and the > temperature rise stopped and it was just warm to the touch. Interestingly > at the controls which shows time to discharge, after I did this, the time > number went up, reflecting the loss in resistance. I then re-locked the > nut in this position and it ran fine. > > 5) Recharging at my club is a bit of a challenge because it looks > like the 15A it needs is not being delivered at my dockside station, unlike > the power supply I had at the yard. My installer recommended using a > y-splitter to provide a plug in into 2 15A outlets combining into my 1 30A > inlet cable, what does the list think? > > 6) With a new Martec 2 bladed folder, backed up nicely, got up to > the full rated 1850 RPM easily except of course the aforementioned > vibration above 1000. > > 7) Cockpit conversations at cruise power were held in a normal tone > of voice?.as if we were ghosting?. > > > > Alex Giannelia > > CC 35-II 1974 launched, to be renamed > > TORONTO, Ontario > > > > ag@@airsensing.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > > Email address: > CnC-List@cnc-list.com <javascript:return> > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of > page at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20140602/8e 34333e/attachment-0001.html> ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2014 09:14:26 -0400 From: Alex Giannelia via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com <javascript:return> > To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com <javascript:return> " <cnc-list@cnc-list.com <javascript:return> > Subject: Stus-List ELECTRIC YACHT LAUNCH! Message-ID: <1820d770a1e128438825b476052dffb0010dd27d4...@vmbx111.ihostexchange.net <javascript:return> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi guys, Here are some more tidbits. The unit I chose was the Electric Yachts Inc system because another CC 35-II owner here in Toronto installed one in his in 2010 and I got a ride on the boat in 2012 and was impressed. Opposed to all other boat items, I chose a professional installer who did a bang up job. He also left me the installation and start up instructions, which I somehow misplaced on the second last day on the hard, so I was somewhat anxious how it was even to be started. I couldn't find them online, so need to get more info on alignment. RANGE; Cruise power of 1100 rpm is about 4 hours. Speed at that setting should be a bit north of 4kts, but I haven't had the ability to cross check against a knot meter, or GPS. I chose this for a few reasons: As much as I love diesel (I own a Jetta TDI) I love diesel and I don't think short spurts are good for that engine type. So, I wanted a motor which can run short bursts and this one does. I chose a 10hp model as this suits a 15-20 bhp of a diesel and I only use my engine for mooring and docking. I'm also a bit hard core that way in that I believe a sailor who can't dead stick a mooring ball or a finger dock somewhere isn't a complete sailor, but each to his own. The net engine/battery weight is 100 lbs less than the 15 hp Westerbeke 4-60 and fuel tank but from a weight and balance point of view less favourable because the heavier batteries are where the tank was and the lighter engine is where the engine was, so we'll be a bit tank heavy. Not being a nautical engineer, the calcs are a bit beyond me, but I expect to load the bow up when sailing. My wife bought into the less noise, and eventually less vibration and definitely less smell and grime in exchange for hot showers which we didn't have hooked up anyway. Stuff remaining: Balance the prop Figure out my shore power/recharging Enjoying quiet motoring in enclosed waterways Cheers! Alexander M. Giannelia President the airborne sensing corporation 555 Richmond Street West, Suite 912, PO Box 1008, Toronto, Ontario M5V 3B1, Canada Phone (416) 203-9858 Mobile (416) 529-0070 Fax (416) 203-9843 *Notre site web est aussi disponible en fran?ais! www.airsensing.com<http://www.airsensing.com/> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20140602/eb eefb0f/attachment-0001.html> ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2014 14:15:32 +0000 (UTC) From: Chris Price via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com <javascript:return> > To: Don Newman <donrnew...@gmail.com <javascript:return> >, cnc-list@cnc-list.com <javascript:return> Subject: Re: Stus-List Can anyone identify the class of this boat? Message-ID: <64725835.3541725.1401718532720.javamail.r...@comcast.net <javascript:return> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Not a Folk boat Chris Price ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don Newman via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com <javascript:return> > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com <javascript:return> Sent: Monday, June 2, 2014 7:55:24 AM Subject: Re: Stus-List Can anyone identify the class of this boat? I think she is the same as one that was in the next slip to me for years. It was a Folk boat hull with Alberg cabin. I don't know who made them or how many were made but I will ask the owners when I see them. Don Newman > _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com <javascript:return> To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com <http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com%20> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20140602/fd c7f33b/attachment-0001.html> ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2014 08:53:55 -0700 (PDT) From: "Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com <javascript:return> > To: "Dennis C." <capt...@gmail.com <javascript:return> >, cnc-list@cnc-list.com <javascript:return> Subject: Re: Stus-List Can anyone identify the class of this boat? Message-ID: <1401724435.98661.yahoomailba...@web122903.mail.ne1.yahoo.com <javascript:return> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 That was my guess. Ron -------------------------------------------- On Sun, 6/1/14, Dennis C. via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com <javascript:return> > wrote: Subject: Re: Stus-List Can anyone identify the class of this boat? To: "Eric Frank" <efran...@mac.com <javascript:return> >, "CnClist" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com <javascript:return> > Date: Sunday, June 1, 2014, 8:24 PM Has a Cape Dory 25 look but not 100% sure. Dennis C. On Sun, Jun 1, 2014 at 8:01 PM, Eric Frank via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com <javascript:return> > wrote: Just saw this lovely little sloop in Hadley Harbor, Buzzards Bay today. ?About 25 feet long. ?Can anyone identify her class? ?Two photos are available on my dropbox - here are the URLs. https://www.dropbox.com/s/3ng1dpa8onucxxp/IMG_1011.jpghttps://www.dropbox.co m/s/kyddmw7d585jfgh/IMG_1018.jpg <https://www.dropbox.com/s/3ng1dpa8onucxxp/IMG_1011.jpghttps:/www.dropbox.co m/s/kyddmw7d585jfgh/IMG_1018.jpg> Thanks, Eric Cat's Paw C&C 35 Mk II Mattapoisett, MA _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com <javascript:return> To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com <javascript:return> To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ------------------------------ Subject: Digest Footer _______________________________________________ CnC-List mailing list CnC-List@cnc-list.com <javascript:return> http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ------------------------------ End of CnC-List Digest, Vol 101, Issue 3 ****************************************
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