I have 10 yr old furuno radar and chart plotter with 2 chart chips covering nj 
to Maine  

The boat is in new London. Call if you are interested. 

Ashe Baltic 39

John Maturo
203-494-6782

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>   1.  3/4 ton rehab (Della Barba, Joe)
>   2. Re:  big $$$ used C&C (Jerome Tauber)
>   3. Re:  big $$$ used C&C (Petar Horvatic)
>   4. Re:  big $$$ used C&C (Joel Aronson)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2014 15:08:02 +0000
> From: "Della Barba, Joe" <joe.della.ba...@ssa.gov>
> To: Burt Stratton <bstrat...@falconnect.com>, "cnc-list@cnc-list.com"
>    <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Subject: Stus-List 3/4 ton rehab
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> We used to race against a ? ton special painted black called 007. 
> Boat-for-boat we were as close to dead-even as could be but we owed them 
> time. If memory serves we rated 126 and they were 130-140 something. I found 
> out Rust-Oleum (yes those guys) make marine paint at something like ?-1/4 the 
> price of the ?marine? brands that apparently works well when brushed on. I am 
> going to try it on a cockpit hatch and see how it goes. You did luck out with 
> the A4 ? there are always deals on parts for those for determined scroungers 
> and many of the diesels of that era have NO parts at all available anymore.
> 
> Joe Della Barba
> Coquina
> C&C 35 MK I
> *if anyone wants to buy her for what I have in the boat I can run off and buy 
> a 43 LOL
> 
> From: Burt Stratton [mailto:bstrat...@falconnect.com]
> Sent: Friday, August 01, 2014 11:00 AM
> To: Della Barba, Joe; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: RE: Stus-List big $$$ used C&C
> 
> Thanks for the offer, Joe. You never know with these old A4s.
> 
> I?m sure you are right about the estimate but I have some wiggle room before 
> I get to the value of the boat. The PO was planning on salvaging the rig and 
> crushing the hull so you can imagine what I might have paid. The boat looked 
> tough but most of the issues (and there are a lot) are cosmetic.  After three 
> weeks we are ready to get her in the water and do some sailing before the 
> season is over. I have spent so far just over $1500 and a LOT of elbow 
> grease. My wife is a very good seamstress and she is willing to do the 
> cushions including adding some back rests. We already have the materials in 
> hand (Sunbrella). I am not using Awlgrip, just some decent deck and epoxy 
> paint. The hull is in good shape and I will not be completely stripping the 
> old paint. It is in good shape, just a little beat up and the wrong color. I 
> am keeping in mind that this is not ever going to be a show boat. Just making 
> it look good and feel good for two to spend a weekend on board. If sails come 
> into !
> the picture that number goes out the door. We will see where it all ends up 
> but I am confident at this point that my efforts on this boat will (for the 
> first time in my life) probably come back to me when I sell her for a bigger 
> boat (the real upgrade). My guess is that I could have at least tripled my 
> purchase price without doing anything but what fun is that?
> 
> Best
> Skip
> 
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Della 
> Barba, Joe via CnC-List
> Sent: Friday, August 01, 2014 10:31 AM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Subject: Re: Stus-List big $$$ used C&C
> 
> You must be *extraordinarily* good at doing work on the cheap. My boat could 
> really use new sails, topside paint, and new cushions. The cost of that 
> exceeds the market value of the boat. I did rewire my boat and that cost a 
> good chunk of your proverbial $4K doing all the work myself. I have been 
> quoted around $10K to paint the boat and over $5K to do interior cushions. I 
> am not trying to be a Richard Cranium ? I love the fact an old C&C has found 
> a loving home ? but I don?t see the finances working the way you think. I 
> have seen again and again that once you start taking things apart you find 
> more and more things to work on. Good luck ? I am anxious to hear how you get 
> topsides and interior done so far under the going rate because I need it too. 
> I am pretty good at A4 scrounging if you need advice with that.
> 
> Joe Della Barba
> Coquina
> C&C 35 MK I
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Burt 
> Stratton via CnC-List
> Sent: Friday, August 01, 2014 9:32 AM
> To: 'Petar Horvatic'; cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Subject: Re: Stus-List big $$$ used C&C
> 
> Respectfully, that all depends on what you paid for the boat. I am happily 
> renewing my 1974 33 foot 3/4ton without breaking the bank and I am virtually 
> certain the value of the boat will increase beyond the money I am spending. 
> Like anything, if you buy right and have some talent you have opportunity to 
> invest a bit without worrying about losing your hard earned $$. I paid almost 
> nothing for a complete and solid yet neglected hull with a very nice rig. 
> Replacing all the windows and hatch lenses with polycarbonate cost less than 
> $600. Renewing the interior will cost me some stripping supplies, varnish and 
> paint. The cushion covers will be the biggest expense. Next year the hull and 
> deck will get a new paint job. I will also completely re-wire both AC and DC 
> systems. When I am done it will be very pretty and comfortable I will be into 
> it for about $4k total, including the purchase of the boat?.. (I do the bulk 
> of the work myself) I am not including the normal cost of owning an!
> d using a boat.
> 
> Now if I start doing things like a new diesel, radar, etc, it would quickly 
> become a losing proposition but I like the A-4. I am on the lookout for a 
> used radar/chartplotter in case anyone comes across something tempting..
> 
> Peter, we will with any luck be in Newport sometime later this month for a 
> well-earned weekend on the hook. I?ll keep an eye out for the Sundowner.
> 
> Ship
> C&C 33 3/4ton
> Portsmouth, RI
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> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2014 11:14:04 -0400
> From: Jerome Tauber <jrtau...@aol.com>
> To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Subject: Re: Stus-List big $$$ used C&C
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> I wonder how much a new Redwing 41 is?   Probably in the same price range.  
> Jerry c&c 27 v J&J
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Aug 1, 2014, at 9:05 AM, Petar Horvatic via CnC-List 
>> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>> 
>> You never get back  the money you put upgrading a used sailboat.  That will 
>> never sell at that price.  It?s a balsa cored production sailboat.  Not a 
>> Hinckley or Alden.  On the other hand, note to myself don?t look for used 
>> sailboats in the Bay area. 
>> 
>> Petar Horvatic
>> Sundowner
>> 76 C&C 38MkII
>> Newport, RI
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Chuck S 
>> via CnC-List
>> Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2014 11:54 PM
>> To: Ebay; CNC boat owners, cnc-list
>> Subject: Re: Stus-List big $$$ used C&C
>> 
>> Wow!  A fully tweaked C&C 43.  Beautiful lines.  Sweet sheerline and love 
>> how the cabintop blends into the foredeck.  Great upgrades.  First class 
>> job, but I don't think they'll get half of what they are asking.    There 
>> are so many other choices on the market for less than $175K.
>> 
>> 
>> Chuck
>> Resolute
>> 1990 C&C 34R
>> Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md
>> 
>> From: "CNC boat owners, cnc-list" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
>> To: "CNC boat owners, cnc-list" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2014 9:46:36 PM
>> Subject: Re: Stus-List big $$$ used C&C
>> 
>> Shame really.  Someone put some money into her.  More money to go I'm afraid.
>> 
>> John
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>> On Jul 31, 2014, at 9:00 PM, "Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List" 
>> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Discounted already??..
>> 
>> http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1973/C-%26-C-Custom-2598240/Sanfrancisco/CA/United-States
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Della 
>> Barba, Joe via CnC-List
>> Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2014 8:41 PM
>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> Subject: Stus-List big $$$ used C&C
>> 
>> http://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/boa/4585762460.html
>> 
>> Nice
>> Expensive
>> 
>> Joe Della Barba
>> Coquina
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> Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2014 11:14:50 -0400
> From: "Petar Horvatic" <phorv...@gmail.com>
> To: <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Subject: Re: Stus-List big $$$ used C&C
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> 
> Hi Andy, thanks for the invite, likewise to you and any other members of the 
> list.  I am at the SW corner of main harbor.  You would recognize Sundowner 
> as it?s the only boat in the harbor with Fourwinds II, a large 2-blade wind 
> generator.   Granted it?s the peak of the season and at anytime someone else 
> might show up with another Fourwinds II.    The hull is flag blue.  
> 
> 
> 
> Burt, you sound like me when I first bought Sundowner.  As far as cushion 
> covers, if you have the time and are a DIY, get a portable sewing machine, 
> like the Sailrite.   Then you can make the cushions yourself and after that 
> you can make the cockpit nice and comfortable as well.   That sewing machine 
> is worth it?s weight in gold.  
> 
> Also, if you tinkered enough with the A4, and when that time comes, get a 
> used diesel and re-build it yourself.  Few years back, while on the hard, 
> using halyards and boom, we hoisted a re-built westerbeke 40 up and in.  That 
> was a site to see.  Because my engine room is so tight, I could not assemble 
> major parts with a diesel like I did so many times with the A4, right there 
> in the engine room.   So I had to hoist a fully loaded westerbeke block 
> weighing somewhere around 450 lbs up and in.  That re-build and install was a 
> tough DIY job, but I couldn?t be happier. 
> 
> I plan to spend a week away this month but let me know what your plans are.   
> You?re welcome to grab my mooring if I?m away.  
> 
> 
> 
> Petar Horvatic
> 
> Sundowner
> 
> 76 C&C 38MkII
> 
> Newport, RI
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Andrew 
> Burton via CnC-List
> Sent: Friday, August 01, 2014 10:07 AM
> To: Burt Stratton; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Re: Stus-List big $$$ used C&C
> 
> 
> 
> Peter (and everyone else), Peregrine is in Brenton Cove near the NYYC, be 
> sure to stop by, if you can. We always have some cold beverage close at hand.
> 
> 
> 
> Andy
> 
> Peregrine
> 
> C&C 40
> 
> 
> Andrew Burton
> 
> 61 W Narragansett
> 
> Newport, RI 
> 
> USA    02840
> 
> 
> 
> http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
> 
> +401 965-5260
> 
> 
> On Aug 1, 2014, at 9:32, Burt Stratton via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Respectfully, that all depends on what you paid for the boat. I am happily 
> renewing my 1974 33 foot 3/4ton without breaking the bank and I am virtually 
> certain the value of the boat will increase beyond the money I am spending. 
> Like anything, if you buy right and have some talent you have opportunity to 
> invest a bit without worrying about losing your hard earned $$. I paid almost 
> nothing for a complete and solid yet neglected hull with a very nice rig. 
> Replacing all the windows and hatch lenses with polycarbonate cost less than 
> $600. Renewing the interior will cost me some stripping supplies, varnish and 
> paint. The cushion covers will be the biggest expense. Next year the hull and 
> deck will get a new paint job. I will also completely re-wire both AC and DC 
> systems. When I am done it will be very pretty and comfortable I will be into 
> it for about $4k total, including the purchase of the boat?.. (I do the bulk 
> of the work myself) I am not including the normal cost of owning an!
> d using a boat.
> 
> 
> 
> Now if I start doing things like a new diesel, radar, etc, it would quickly 
> become a losing proposition but I like the A-4. I am on the lookout for a 
> used radar/chartplotter in case anyone comes across something tempting..  
> 
> 
> 
> Peter, we will with any luck be in Newport sometime later this month for a 
> well-earned weekend on the hook. I?ll keep an eye out for the Sundowner.
> 
> 
> 
> Ship
> 
> C&C 33 3/4ton
> 
> Portsmouth, RI
> 
> 
> 
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Petar 
> Horvatic via CnC-List
> Sent: Friday, August 01, 2014 9:06 AM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com; 'Ebay'
> Subject: Re: Stus-List big $$$ used C&C
> 
> 
> 
> You never get back  the money you put upgrading a used sailboat.  That will 
> never sell at that price.  It?s a balsa cored production sailboat.  Not a 
> Hinckley or Alden.  On the other hand, note to myself don?t look for used 
> sailboats in the Bay area.  
> 
> 
> 
> Petar Horvatic
> 
> Sundowner
> 
> 76 C&C 38MkII
> 
> Newport, RI
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Chuck S 
> via CnC-List
> Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2014 11:54 PM
> To: Ebay; CNC boat owners, cnc-list
> Subject: Re: Stus-List big $$$ used C&C
> 
> 
> 
> Wow!  A fully tweaked C&C 43.  Beautiful lines.  Sweet sheerline and love how 
> the cabintop blends into the foredeck.  Great upgrades.  First class job, but 
> I don't think they'll get half of what they are asking.    There are so many 
> other choices on the market for less than $175K.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Chuck
> Resolute
> 1990 C&C 34R
> Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  _____  
> 
> 
> From: "CNC boat owners, cnc-list" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> To: "CNC boat owners, cnc-list" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2014 9:46:36 PM
> Subject: Re: Stus-List big $$$ used C&C
> 
> 
> 
> Shame really.  Someone put some money into her.  More money to go I'm afraid.
> 
> 
> 
> John
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> 
> On Jul 31, 2014, at 9:00 PM, "Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List" 
> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Discounted already??..
> 
> 
> 
> http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1973/C-%26-C-Custom-2598240/Sanfrancisco/CA/United-States
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Della 
> Barba, Joe via CnC-List
> Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2014 8:41 PM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Stus-List big $$$ used C&C
> 
> 
> 
> http://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/boa/4585762460.html
> 
> 
> 
> Nice 
> 
> Expensive
> 
> 
> 
> Joe Della Barba
> 
> Coquina
> 
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> Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2014 11:15:20 -0400
> From: Joel Aronson <joel.aron...@gmail.com>
> To: Jerome Tauber <jrtau...@aol.com>,    "cnc-list@cnc-list.com"
>    <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Subject: Re: Stus-List big $$$ used C&C
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> Saw an estimated price of $410,000 for the Redwing.
> 
> Joel
> 
> 
> On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 11:14 AM, Jerome Tauber via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> 
>> I wonder how much a new Redwing 41 is?   Probably in the same price range.
>> Jerry c&c 27 v J&J
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Aug 1, 2014, at 9:05 AM, Petar Horvatic via CnC-List <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>> 
>> You never get back  the money you put upgrading a used sailboat.  That
>> will never sell at that price.  It?s a balsa cored production sailboat.
>> Not a Hinckley or Alden.  On the other hand, note to myself don?t look for
>> used sailboats in the Bay area.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Petar Horvatic
>> 
>> Sundowner
>> 
>> 76 C&C 38MkII
>> 
>> Newport, RI
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com
>> <cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com>] *On Behalf Of *Chuck S via CnC-List
>> *Sent:* Thursday, July 31, 2014 11:54 PM
>> *To:* Ebay; CNC boat owners, cnc-list
>> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List big $$$ used C&C
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Wow!  A fully tweaked C&C 43.  Beautiful lines.  Sweet sheerline and love
>> how the cabintop blends into the foredeck.  Great upgrades.  First class
>> job, but I don't think they'll get half of what they are asking.    There
>> are so many other choices on the market for less than $175K.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Chuck
>> *Resolute*
>> 1990 C&C 34R
>> Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md
>> 
>> 
>> ------------------------------
>> 
>> *From: *"CNC boat owners, cnc-list" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
>> *To: *"CNC boat owners, cnc-list" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
>> *Sent: *Thursday, July 31, 2014 9:46:36 PM
>> *Subject: *Re: Stus-List big $$$ used C&C
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Shame really.  Someone put some money into her.  More money to go I'm
>> afraid.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> John
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>> 
>> On Jul 31, 2014, at 9:00 PM, "Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List" <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Discounted already??..
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1973/C-%26-C-Custom-2598240/Sanfrancisco/CA/United-States
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com
>> <cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com>] *On Behalf Of *Della Barba, Joe via
>> CnC-List
>> *Sent:* Thursday, July 31, 2014 8:41 PM
>> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> *Subject:* Stus-List big $$$ used C&C
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> http://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/boa/4585762460.html
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Nice
>> 
>> Expensive
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> *Joe Della Barba*
>> 
>> *Coquina*
>> 
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