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Mike Fair 413.587.6535 -----Original Message----- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Maturo, John via CnC-List Sent: Friday, August 01, 2014 11:57 AM To: <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Subject: Stus-List Radar chart plotter I have 10 yr old furuno radar and chart plotter with 2 chart chips covering nj to Maine The boat is in new London. Call if you are interested. Ashe Baltic 39 John Maturo 203-494-6782 > On Aug 1, 2014, at 11:16, "cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com" > <cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com> wrote: > > Send CnC-List mailing list submissions to > cnc-list@cnc-list.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > cnc-list-ow...@cnc-list.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of CnC-List digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. 3/4 ton rehab (Della Barba, Joe) > 2. Re: big $$$ used C&C (Jerome Tauber) > 3. Re: big $$$ used C&C (Petar Horvatic) > 4. Re: big $$$ used C&C (Joel Aronson) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2014 15:08:02 +0000 > From: "Della Barba, Joe" <joe.della.ba...@ssa.gov> > To: Burt Stratton <bstrat...@falconnect.com>, "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" > <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Subject: Stus-List 3/4 ton rehab > Message-ID: > <e8c532d0ff5648bd9a6a2aa5736c0...@nsc-dag1-06.ba.ad.ssa.gov> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > We used to race against a ? ton special painted black called 007. > Boat-for-boat we were as close to dead-even as could be but we owed them > time. If memory serves we rated 126 and they were 130-140 something. I found > out Rust-Oleum (yes those guys) make marine paint at something like ?-1/4 the > price of the ?marine? brands that apparently works well when brushed on. I am > going to try it on a cockpit hatch and see how it goes. You did luck out with > the A4 ? there are always deals on parts for those for determined scroungers > and many of the diesels of that era have NO parts at all available anymore. > > Joe Della Barba > Coquina > C&C 35 MK I > *if anyone wants to buy her for what I have in the boat I can run off > and buy a 43 LOL > > From: Burt Stratton [mailto:bstrat...@falconnect.com] > Sent: Friday, August 01, 2014 11:00 AM > To: Della Barba, Joe; cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: RE: Stus-List big $$$ used C&C > > Thanks for the offer, Joe. You never know with these old A4s. > > I?m sure you are right about the estimate but I have some wiggle room before > I get to the value of the boat. The PO was planning on salvaging the rig and > crushing the hull so you can imagine what I might have paid. The boat looked > tough but most of the issues (and there are a lot) are cosmetic. After three > weeks we are ready to get her in the water and do some sailing before the > season is over. I have spent so far just over $1500 and a LOT of elbow > grease. My wife is a very good seamstress and she is willing to do the > cushions including adding some back rests. We already have the materials in > hand (Sunbrella). I am not using Awlgrip, just some decent deck and epoxy > paint. The hull is in good shape and I will not be completely stripping the > old paint. It is in good shape, just a little beat up and the wrong color. I > am keeping in mind that this is not ever going to be a show boat. Just making > it look good and feel good for two to spend a weekend on board. If sails come > into ! > the picture that number goes out the door. We will see where it all ends up > but I am confident at this point that my efforts on this boat will (for the > first time in my life) probably come back to me when I sell her for a bigger > boat (the real upgrade). My guess is that I could have at least tripled my > purchase price without doing anything but what fun is that? > > Best > Skip > > From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of > Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List > Sent: Friday, August 01, 2014 10:31 AM > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Subject: Re: Stus-List big $$$ used C&C > > You must be *extraordinarily* good at doing work on the cheap. My boat could > really use new sails, topside paint, and new cushions. The cost of that > exceeds the market value of the boat. I did rewire my boat and that cost a > good chunk of your proverbial $4K doing all the work myself. I have been > quoted around $10K to paint the boat and over $5K to do interior cushions. I > am not trying to be a Richard Cranium ? I love the fact an old C&C has found > a loving home ? but I don?t see the finances working the way you think. I > have seen again and again that once you start taking things apart you find > more and more things to work on. Good luck ? I am anxious to hear how you get > topsides and interior done so far under the going rate because I need it too. > I am pretty good at A4 scrounging if you need advice with that. > > Joe Della Barba > Coquina > C&C 35 MK I > From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of > Burt Stratton via CnC-List > Sent: Friday, August 01, 2014 9:32 AM > To: 'Petar Horvatic'; > cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Subject: Re: Stus-List big $$$ used C&C > > Respectfully, that all depends on what you paid for the boat. I am happily > renewing my 1974 33 foot 3/4ton without breaking the bank and I am virtually > certain the value of the boat will increase beyond the money I am spending. > Like anything, if you buy right and have some talent you have opportunity to > invest a bit without worrying about losing your hard earned $$. I paid almost > nothing for a complete and solid yet neglected hull with a very nice rig. > Replacing all the windows and hatch lenses with polycarbonate cost less than > $600. Renewing the interior will cost me some stripping supplies, varnish and > paint. The cushion covers will be the biggest expense. Next year the hull and > deck will get a new paint job. I will also completely re-wire both AC and DC > systems. When I am done it will be very pretty and comfortable I will be into > it for about $4k total, including the purchase of the boat?.. (I do the bulk > of the work myself) I am not including the normal cost of owning an! > d using a boat. > > Now if I start doing things like a new diesel, radar, etc, it would quickly > become a losing proposition but I like the A-4. I am on the lookout for a > used radar/chartplotter in case anyone comes across something tempting.. > > Peter, we will with any luck be in Newport sometime later this month for a > well-earned weekend on the hook. I?ll keep an eye out for the Sundowner. > > Ship > C&C 33 3/4ton > Portsmouth, RI > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was > scrubbed... > URL: > <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20140 > 801/4a014b6e/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2014 11:14:04 -0400 > From: Jerome Tauber <jrtau...@aol.com> > To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Subject: Re: Stus-List big $$$ used C&C > Message-ID: <8ee948a7-6dc0-4604-b793-d92fe4584...@aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > I wonder how much a new Redwing 41 is? Probably in the same price range. > Jerry c&c 27 v J&J > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Aug 1, 2014, at 9:05 AM, Petar Horvatic via CnC-List >> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: >> >> You never get back the money you put upgrading a used sailboat. That will >> never sell at that price. It?s a balsa cored production sailboat. Not a >> Hinckley or Alden. On the other hand, note to myself don?t look for used >> sailboats in the Bay area. >> >> Petar Horvatic >> Sundowner >> 76 C&C 38MkII >> Newport, RI >> >> >> >> >> >> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of >> Chuck S via CnC-List >> Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2014 11:54 PM >> To: Ebay; CNC boat owners, cnc-list >> Subject: Re: Stus-List big $$$ used C&C >> >> Wow! A fully tweaked C&C 43. Beautiful lines. Sweet sheerline and love >> how the cabintop blends into the foredeck. Great upgrades. First class >> job, but I don't think they'll get half of what they are asking. There >> are so many other choices on the market for less than $175K. >> >> >> Chuck >> Resolute >> 1990 C&C 34R >> Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md >> >> From: "CNC boat owners, cnc-list" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >> To: "CNC boat owners, cnc-list" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >> Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2014 9:46:36 PM >> Subject: Re: Stus-List big $$$ used C&C >> >> Shame really. Someone put some money into her. More money to go I'm afraid. >> >> John >> >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> On Jul 31, 2014, at 9:00 PM, "Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List" >> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: >> >> Discounted already??.. >> >> http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1973/C-%26-C-Custom-2598240/Sanfranci >> sco/CA/United-States >> >> >> >> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of >> Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List >> Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2014 8:41 PM >> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com >> Subject: Stus-List big $$$ used C&C >> >> http://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/boa/4585762460.html >> >> Nice >> Expensive >> >> Joe Della Barba >> Coquina >> _______________________________________________ >> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >> >> Email address: >> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >> To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of >> page at: >> http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >> >> Email address: >> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >> To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of >> page at: >> http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >> >> Email address: >> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >> To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of >> page at: >> http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was > scrubbed... > URL: > <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20140 > 801/da8cc146/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2014 11:14:50 -0400 > From: "Petar Horvatic" <phorv...@gmail.com> > To: <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Subject: Re: Stus-List big $$$ used C&C > Message-ID: <019c01cfad9b$581f0dc0$085d2940$@com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Hi Andy, thanks for the invite, likewise to you and any other members of the > list. I am at the SW corner of main harbor. You would recognize Sundowner > as it?s the only boat in the harbor with Fourwinds II, a large 2-blade wind > generator. Granted it?s the peak of the season and at anytime someone else > might show up with another Fourwinds II. The hull is flag blue. > > > > Burt, you sound like me when I first bought Sundowner. As far as cushion > covers, if you have the time and are a DIY, get a portable sewing machine, > like the Sailrite. Then you can make the cushions yourself and after that > you can make the cockpit nice and comfortable as well. That sewing machine > is worth it?s weight in gold. > > Also, if you tinkered enough with the A4, and when that time comes, get a > used diesel and re-build it yourself. Few years back, while on the hard, > using halyards and boom, we hoisted a re-built westerbeke 40 up and in. That > was a site to see. Because my engine room is so tight, I could not assemble > major parts with a diesel like I did so many times with the A4, right there > in the engine room. So I had to hoist a fully loaded westerbeke block > weighing somewhere around 450 lbs up and in. That re-build and install was a > tough DIY job, but I couldn?t be happier. > > I plan to spend a week away this month but let me know what your plans are. > You?re welcome to grab my mooring if I?m away. > > > > Petar Horvatic > > Sundowner > > 76 C&C 38MkII > > Newport, RI > > > > > > > > > > > > From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of > Andrew Burton via CnC-List > Sent: Friday, August 01, 2014 10:07 AM > To: Burt Stratton; cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: Re: Stus-List big $$$ used C&C > > > > Peter (and everyone else), Peregrine is in Brenton Cove near the NYYC, be > sure to stop by, if you can. We always have some cold beverage close at hand. > > > > Andy > > Peregrine > > C&C 40 > > > Andrew Burton > > 61 W Narragansett > > Newport, RI > > USA 02840 > > > > http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/ > > +401 965-5260 > > > On Aug 1, 2014, at 9:32, Burt Stratton via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote: > > Respectfully, that all depends on what you paid for the boat. I am happily > renewing my 1974 33 foot 3/4ton without breaking the bank and I am virtually > certain the value of the boat will increase beyond the money I am spending. > Like anything, if you buy right and have some talent you have opportunity to > invest a bit without worrying about losing your hard earned $$. I paid almost > nothing for a complete and solid yet neglected hull with a very nice rig. > Replacing all the windows and hatch lenses with polycarbonate cost less than > $600. Renewing the interior will cost me some stripping supplies, varnish and > paint. The cushion covers will be the biggest expense. Next year the hull and > deck will get a new paint job. I will also completely re-wire both AC and DC > systems. When I am done it will be very pretty and comfortable I will be into > it for about $4k total, including the purchase of the boat?.. (I do the bulk > of the work myself) I am not including the normal cost of owning an! > d using a boat. > > > > Now if I start doing things like a new diesel, radar, etc, it would quickly > become a losing proposition but I like the A-4. I am on the lookout for a > used radar/chartplotter in case anyone comes across something tempting.. > > > > Peter, we will with any luck be in Newport sometime later this month for a > well-earned weekend on the hook. I?ll keep an eye out for the Sundowner. > > > > Ship > > C&C 33 3/4ton > > Portsmouth, RI > > > > From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of > Petar Horvatic via CnC-List > Sent: Friday, August 01, 2014 9:06 AM > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com; 'Ebay' > Subject: Re: Stus-List big $$$ used C&C > > > > You never get back the money you put upgrading a used sailboat. That will > never sell at that price. It?s a balsa cored production sailboat. Not a > Hinckley or Alden. On the other hand, note to myself don?t look for used > sailboats in the Bay area. > > > > Petar Horvatic > > Sundowner > > 76 C&C 38MkII > > Newport, RI > > > > > > > > > > > > From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of > Chuck S via CnC-List > Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2014 11:54 PM > To: Ebay; CNC boat owners, cnc-list > Subject: Re: Stus-List big $$$ used C&C > > > > Wow! A fully tweaked C&C 43. Beautiful lines. Sweet sheerline and love how > the cabintop blends into the foredeck. Great upgrades. First class job, but > I don't think they'll get half of what they are asking. There are so many > other choices on the market for less than $175K. > > > > > > Chuck > Resolute > 1990 C&C 34R > Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md > > > > > _____ > > > From: "CNC boat owners, cnc-list" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > To: "CNC boat owners, cnc-list" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2014 9:46:36 PM > Subject: Re: Stus-List big $$$ used C&C > > > > Shame really. Someone put some money into her. More money to go I'm afraid. > > > > John > > > > > > Sent from my iPad > > > On Jul 31, 2014, at 9:00 PM, "Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List" > <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > > > > Discounted already??.. > > > > http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1973/C-%26-C-Custom-2598240/Sanfrancis > co/CA/United-States > > > > > > > > From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of > Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List > Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2014 8:41 PM > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: Stus-List big $$$ used C&C > > > > http://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/boa/4585762460.html > > > > Nice > > Expensive > > > > Joe Della Barba > > Coquina > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > > Email address: > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page > at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > > > > Email address: > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page > at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > > Email address: > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page > at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was > scrubbed... > URL: > <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20140 > 801/e66c8365/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2014 11:15:20 -0400 > From: Joel Aronson <joel.aron...@gmail.com> > To: Jerome Tauber <jrtau...@aol.com>, "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" > <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Subject: Re: Stus-List big $$$ used C&C > Message-ID: > > <cael16p-2oibczodods+rogp5rnufkqnfe9jxsf4_+fe6mn5...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Saw an estimated price of $410,000 for the Redwing. > > Joel > > > On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 11:14 AM, Jerome Tauber via CnC-List < > cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > >> I wonder how much a new Redwing 41 is? Probably in the same price range. >> Jerry c&c 27 v J&J >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Aug 1, 2014, at 9:05 AM, Petar Horvatic via CnC-List < >> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: >> >> You never get back the money you put upgrading a used sailboat. >> That will never sell at that price. It?s a balsa cored production sailboat. >> Not a Hinckley or Alden. On the other hand, note to myself don?t >> look for used sailboats in the Bay area. >> >> >> >> Petar Horvatic >> >> Sundowner >> >> 76 C&C 38MkII >> >> Newport, RI >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com >> <cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com>] *On Behalf Of *Chuck S via CnC-List >> *Sent:* Thursday, July 31, 2014 11:54 PM >> *To:* Ebay; CNC boat owners, cnc-list >> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List big $$$ used C&C >> >> >> >> Wow! A fully tweaked C&C 43. Beautiful lines. Sweet sheerline and >> love how the cabintop blends into the foredeck. Great upgrades. First class >> job, but I don't think they'll get half of what they are asking. There >> are so many other choices on the market for less than $175K. >> >> >> >> >> >> Chuck >> *Resolute* >> 1990 C&C 34R >> Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> *From: *"CNC boat owners, cnc-list" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >> *To: *"CNC boat owners, cnc-list" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >> *Sent: *Thursday, July 31, 2014 9:46:36 PM >> *Subject: *Re: Stus-List big $$$ used C&C >> >> >> >> Shame really. Someone put some money into her. More money to go I'm >> afraid. >> >> >> >> John >> >> >> >> >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> >> On Jul 31, 2014, at 9:00 PM, "Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List" < >> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> Discounted already??.. >> >> >> >> >> http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1973/C-%26-C-Custom-2598240/Sanfranci >> sco/CA/United-States >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com >> <cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com>] *On Behalf Of *Della Barba, Joe via >> CnC-List >> *Sent:* Thursday, July 31, 2014 8:41 PM >> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com >> *Subject:* Stus-List big $$$ used C&C >> >> >> >> http://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/boa/4585762460.html >> >> >> >> Nice >> >> Expensive >> >> >> >> *Joe Della Barba* >> >> *Coquina* >> >> _______________________________________________ >> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >> >> Email address: >> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >> To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom >> of page at: >> http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >> >> >> >> Email address: >> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >> To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom >> of page at: >> http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >> >> Email address: >> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >> To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom >> of page at: >> http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >> >> Email address: >> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >> To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom >> of page at: >> http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > > > -- > Joel > 301 541 8551 > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was > scrubbed... > URL: > <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20140 > 801/607141b9/attachment.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > CnC-List mailing list > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > > > ------------------------------ > > End of CnC-List Digest, Vol 103, Issue 3 > **************************************** _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com