I painted my topsides with one-part Brightside about two years ago – flag blue 
– and have been happy with the results even in the Florida sun.

Yeah, you get a slight fading if you don’t wax. I don’t mind because it still 
looks good, and I don’t want to have to strip off wax to do an occasional 
touch-up when I scrape something. That’s another advantage. Stuff happens. And 
Brightside is easy to touch up.

My plan is to add another coat or two when I haul out every four or five years. 
That adds about two days to my yard time.

The cost to do a nice job is under $100. With good prep, there’s no problem 
with peeling or chipping. For an older small boat, I just don’t see the sense 
of spending thousands on an Awlgrip paint job.

Jack Brennan
Former C&C 25
Shanachie, 1974 Bristol 30
Tierra Verde, Fl.

From: Burt Stratton via CnC-List
Sent: Friday, August 01, 2014 3:16 PM
To: 'Dennis C.' ; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List big $$$ used C&C - now painting topsides

Good advice, thanks. I know the PO so perhaps he could tell me what paint was 
used last.



From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dennis C. 
via CnC-List
Sent: Friday, August 01, 2014 12:37 PM
To: Russ & Melody; CnClist
Subject: Re: Stus-List big $$$ used C&C - now painting topsides



I second Russ' caution.  If you're not stripping the old paint, try a test spot 
first.  Paints contain solvents which may not be compatible with other paints.

When we painted Touche' a few years ago, I prepped the hull with degreaser then 
320 grit sandpaper.  We shot a test spot of Awlcraft.  It didn't stick to the 
old paint and bubbled up where a second underlying paint had been exposed.  I 
ended up stripping all the old layers of paint with a Hutchins straight line 
sander.  Don't use a disc sander!

Even after stripping, it required 3 coats of high build primer to get good 
results.

Dennis C.

Touche' 35-1 #83

Mandeville, LA



On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 11:07 AM, Russ & Melody via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

Hi Burt (or is it Skip or Ship?),

Be careful with the epoxy paint. Unless they've change remarkably in twenty 
years you will have a chaulking problem down the road.

I had a deck cabin painted with epoxy on one boat and a mast on the other boat. 
Both of them started leaving a white residue after a 1/2 dozen years. The cabin 
would show on clothing (like after sitting on it) and the mast has a white mess 
at the base after a rain. (We live in a rain forest, south western Canada).

On Sweet I spent the extra bucks (~$600) for all supplies, and went with 2-pot 
urethane that the Admiral & I put on, roll & tip for cockpit, deck and cabin.

For an economical job go with the Rustoleum urethane and put the best primer 
you can underneath it. As you probably know, prep & primer is 80% of the job.

        Cheers, Russ
        Sweet 35 mk-1

(A4 replaced with a running take-out Yanmar diesel I got for $1500 seven years 
ago, but that's a whole 'nother topic :)


At 07:59 AM 01/08/2014, you wrote:



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Thanks for the offer, Joe. You never know with these old A4s.

I’m sure you are right about the estimate but I have some wiggle room before 
I get to the value of the boat. The PO was planning on salvaging the rig and 
crushing the hull so you can imagine what I might have paid. The boat looked 
tough but most of the issues (and there are a lot) are cosmetic. Â After three 
weeks we are ready to get her in the water and do some sailing before the 
season is over. I have spent so far just over $1500 and a LOT of elbow grease. 
My wife is a very good seamstress and she is willing to do the cushions 
including adding some back rests. We already have the materials in hand 
(Sunbrella). I am not using Awlgrip, just some decent deck and epoxy paint. The 
hull is in good shape and I will not be completely stripping the old paint. It 
is in good shape, just a little beat up and the wrong color. I am keeping in 
mind that this is not ever going to be a show boat. Just making it look good 
and feel good for two to spend a weekend on board. If sails come into the 
picture that number goes out the door. We will see where it all ends up but I 
am confident at this point that my efforts on this boat will (for the first 
time in my life) probably come back to me when I sell her for a bigger boat 
(the real upgrade). My guess is that I could have at least tripled my purchase 
price without doing anything but what fun is that?

Best
Skip






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