The yard where I keep my boat requires the mast to come down for winter storage on the hard. I feel it gives me the opportunity to have a look at everything every year. It also makes covering her up a lot easier... DannyLolita1973 Viking 33Westport Point, MA
---------- Original Message ---------- From: Ron Casciato via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> To: "'Hoyt, Mike'" <mike.h...@impgroup.com>, <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Subject: Re: Stus-List Mast removal for winter? Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2014 15:41:35 -0400 Mike: I agree that we haven’t talked about this one for some time…………..in my case (mast up)…….the cost to take it down and put it back up is prohibitive……….more than $500 which is not part of the storage agreement…………not doing that every year. Ron C. From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 3:32 PM To: Joel Aronson; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Mast removal for winter? This is a long time debate. Which damages boat / mast more? Removal and reinstall of mast and potential mishaps or leaving it up? I know that one season on our J27 we left the mast up. That Spring while working on the boat the entire cradle would vibrate every time a gust of wind hit. I attribute this to a very slender and bendy spar as much as anything. The big issue these days seems to be leaving a spar up with a boat on jack stands. The extra windage of the mast further compromises the integrity of jack stands. One local club (Dartmouth Yacht Club) will not permit a mast to be left up on the hard unless the boat is stored on a cradle. Another way to look at it is if you wish to use jack stands the mast must come down. I realize that many boat yards in the Northeast US only allow jackstands. I believe this is due to yard space and not due to a jackstand being more secure than a cradle. So here we are back to the very old mast up vs mast down question. At the very least mast down does give you a good opportunity to inspect the standing rigging and the mast Mike From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Joel Aronson via CnC-List Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 4:17 PM To: Ron Casciato; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Mast removal for winter? Same in Annapolis. Masts stay in the boat unless they are being worked on. Joel On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 3:13 PM, Ron Casciato via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: In the boatyards around Boston.............almost no masts are removed for winter storage..........most are stored with mast up and seem to do well........ In the past 14 years, I've only taken mine down for revisions or repairs to wind instruments......probably 3 times in that 14 year interval........ It will be staying up again this year. Yes, relieve the tension on shrouds and backstay "a little" not flopping around........ Ron C. Impromptu C&C 38MKIIC.....'77 -----Original Message----- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 2:03 PM To: Dr. Mark Bodnar; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Mast removal for winter? Mast up with a boat on jack stands is not a good idea. Many clubs around here do not permit it -----Original Message----- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dr. Mark Bodnar via CnC-List Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 2:47 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Mast removal for winter? All the discussion about unstepping the mast has me wondering about the merits of leaving it in or pulling it out for the winter. In the owners manual for the CS 30 is states > CS Yachts does not recommend that the yacht be stored with the mast > left in place as this places stresses on the hull and rig not > encountered during normal operation. Any damage to the yacht, its > cradle or any associated part will not be covered under > warranty if the boat has been stored with the rig in place. I pulled the mast on my Mirage 24 - but we were able to do that by hand. Our club has a crane and a "gin pole"(?) that could be used to pull the mast --- but given all the bigger boats seem to leave the mast in place I wonder if I'm better leaving it as it is. Loosen up the shrouds a little and maybe pull our the halyards (leaving messenger lines). I know when I bought the boat it hadn't been off the jack stands for 3 yrs - and the mast was up the whole time (shrouds not loosened and 3 of the 4 halyards just pulled up to the mast head --- rescued by the launch crew for me) Having just bought this boat I wonder if hauling the mast might be a good idea so I can get a good look at the mast head, sheaves etc. That said everything is working well -- is it easier to just go up the mast in a bosuns chair and do an inspection from there? Advice appreciated, Mark -- There is no cure for birth and death save to enjoy the interval. - George Santayana --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! 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