Ken,

        Never measured the draft of the rudder on the Enterprise, but I would 
say it’s very close to the keel depth of 4.92 feet. When the boat out of the 
water and the keel is on blocks, the rudder is pretty close to ground.

        I can measure it for you when the boat hauls in 2 weeks :-(


        All the best,

        Edd


        Edd M. Schillay
        Starship Enterprise
        C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
        City Island, NY 
        Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log

On Sep 27, 2014, at 9:33 AM, Ken Heaton via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
wrote:

I intended to send this to the list and didn't hit "Reply to All", whoops.

Ken H.


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Ken Heaton <kenhea...@gmail.com>
Date: 27 September 2014 09:20
Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 37/40 + Pricing (
To: John Pennie <j...@svpaws.net>


That isn't actually true John.  The draft of the rudder in those drawings is 5' 
6".  The draft of the CB version's keel is listed at 4' 11" so the CB version 
has to use a shorter rudder.  Perhaps Ed can tell us the draft of the rudder on 
the Enterprise?

Here is a photo of the CB version: 
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-w_2kz_b_09w/Tca8kZgc_SI/AAAAAAAABdg/PhjJ2NEmq2I/s1600/photo.JPG

Full Keel version here: 
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-doNhtyaGUq4/TX__SDQGyKI/AAAAAAAAO-Y/IcZ6dV4z9oU/w1534-h1023-no/20101121_Salazar%2Bin%2BCradle_0013.JPG

Ken H.

On 26 September 2014 23:35, John Pennie <j...@svpaws.net> wrote:
Great comparison.  More interesting - take a look at the rudder.  In all cases 
they have the shoal draft rudder which would work with the centerboard model.  
This is the same thing we saw on our 51 of similar vintage.  Apparently they 
would change the keel but not alter the rudder.  Rob Ball hand some interesting 
thoughts on that when I spoke to him in the early 2000’s about redesigning the 
rudder.  Curious if that is just drawings or in fact held true in production.

John



On Sep 26, 2014, at 9:19 PM, Ken Heaton via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
wrote:

> Take a look at the three illustrations linked below:
> 
> This is the drawing for the 37+ (also known as the 37/40+, and after 1992, 
> the 40+)
> 
> http://sailboatdata.com/viewrecord.asp?class_id=5997
> 
> Notice the "Beaver Tail" on the bottom of the keel.  This is the 7' 3" (or 
> 4") draft keel.
> 
> Now look at this one.  This is the 37XL, (also known as the 37/40XL, and 
> after 1992, the 40XL)
> 
> http://sailboatdata.com/viewrecord.asp?class_id=5998
> 
> Notice it is a bit deeper and has no "Beaver Tail" and has somewhere between 
> 7' 10" to 8' 2" of draft.
> 
> Finally, the 37R (also known as the 37/40R)
> 
> http://sailboatdata.com/viewrecord.asp?class_id=2563
> 
> Same keel as the XL, more or less.
> 
> The wing keels were fitted to both the 37+ and XL if you ordered it that way. 
>  Same for the Centreboard Keel as far as I know.
> 
> I have photos online somewhere, I'll have a look.
> 
> Ken H.
> 



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