Hey Edd,

Looks pretty much the same to me, I'm guessing perhaps an inch or two less
so perhaps 4' 9" of draft for the CB rudder?

Boat haul-out dates at the Ben Eoin Yacht Cub have been set for October 4
and October 18.  Too soon...

Ken H.

On 27 September 2014 11:03, Edd Schillay <e...@schillay.com> wrote:

> Ken,
>
> Never measured the draft of the rudder on the Enterprise, but I would say
> it’s very close to the keel depth of 4.92 feet. When the boat out of the
> water and the keel is on blocks, the rudder is pretty close to ground.
>
> I can measure it for you when the boat hauls in 2 weeks :-(
>
>
> All the best,
>
> Edd
>
>
> Edd M. Schillay
> Starship Enterprise
> C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
> City Island, NY
> Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log <http://enterpriseb.blogspot.com/>
>
> On Sep 27, 2014, at 9:33 AM, Ken Heaton via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> I intended to send this to the list and didn't hit "Reply to All", whoops.
>
> Ken H.
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Ken Heaton <kenhea...@gmail.com>
> Date: 27 September 2014 09:20
> Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 37/40 + Pricing (
> To: John Pennie <j...@svpaws.net>
>
>
> That isn't actually true John.  The draft of the rudder in those drawings
> is 5' 6".  The draft of the CB version's keel is listed at 4' 11" so the CB
> version has to use a shorter rudder.  Perhaps Ed can tell us the draft of
> the rudder on the Enterprise?
>
> Here is a photo of the CB version:
> http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-w_2kz_b_09w/Tca8kZgc_SI/AAAAAAAABdg/PhjJ2NEmq2I/s1600/photo.JPG
>
> Full Keel version here:
> https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-doNhtyaGUq4/TX__SDQGyKI/AAAAAAAAO-Y/IcZ6dV4z9oU/w1534-h1023-no/20101121_Salazar%2Bin%2BCradle_0013.JPG
>
> Ken H.
>
> On 26 September 2014 23:35, John Pennie <j...@svpaws.net> wrote:
>
>> Great comparison.  More interesting - take a look at the rudder.  In all
>> cases they have the shoal draft rudder which would work with the
>> centerboard model.  This is the same thing we saw on our 51 of similar
>> vintage.  Apparently they would change the keel but not alter the rudder.
>> Rob Ball hand some interesting thoughts on that when I spoke to him in the
>> early 2000’s about redesigning the rudder.  Curious if that is just
>> drawings or in fact held true in production.
>>
>> John
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sep 26, 2014, at 9:19 PM, Ken Heaton via CnC-List <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>
>> Take a look at the three illustrations linked below:
>>
>> This is the drawing for the 37+ (also known as the 37/40+, and after
>> 1992, the 40+)
>>
>> http://sailboatdata.com/viewrecord.asp?class_id=5997
>>
>> Notice the "Beaver Tail" on the bottom of the keel.  This is the 7' 3"
>> (or 4") draft keel.
>>
>> Now look at this one.  This is the 37XL, (also known as the 37/40XL, and
>> after 1992, the 40XL)
>>
>> http://sailboatdata.com/viewrecord.asp?class_id=5998
>>
>> Notice it is a bit deeper and has no "Beaver Tail" and has somewhere
>> between 7' 10" to 8' 2" of draft.
>>
>> Finally, the 37R (also known as the 37/40R)
>>
>> http://sailboatdata.com/viewrecord.asp?class_id=2563
>>
>> Same keel as the XL, more or less.
>>
>> The wing keels were fitted to both the 37+ and XL if you ordered it that
>> way.  Same for the Centreboard Keel as far as I know.
>>
>> I have photos online somewhere, I'll have a look.
>>
>> Ken H.
>>
>>
>>
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