On Calypso with her 1970 Barient 36 primaries and the slippery hi-tech sheets 
we need 5 to 6 wraps to reduce slippage.  With older well-worn sheets (used for 
deliveries and cruising) we can get back down to 3 to 4 wraps.  To avoid 
unpleasant surprises when tacking with 5 to 6 wraps on the winch we practiced 
the best way to clear the sheet off the winch and insure it runs clear.  After 
each tack we "fake down the line" starting at the winch to clear any twists 
induced by the extra wraps.

The 1970 Barient's drums have been worn smooth over the decades of heavy use.  
They are not self-tailing winches.  I do plan to roughen up the drums a bit by 
dimpling the surface with a nail set and hammer.  This project falls well 
behind the current deck restoration efforts already in progress.

On Sailing Anarchy either in the Fixit or Cruising forums there is a topic 
thread regarding how to roughen up a winch drum either DIY or using an outside 
service.

Martin DeYoung
Calypso
1971 C&C 43
Seattle

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From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of 
Jean-Francois J Rivard via CnC-List
Sent: Monday, July 27, 2015 7:46 AM
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Cc: Jean-Francois J Rivard; patrici...@cogeco.ca
Subject: Stus-List Stus list winches

Hi Herold.

Sounds obvious but I'll say it anyway:  Have you tried 4 wraps?

I read somewhere that the "Correct" number of turns is 4.  On my boat it's a 
necessity, when It's blowing, 3 wraps is a waste of time and effort, they all 
slip.

4 turns gets it done.

-Francois Rivard
1990 34+ "Take Five"
Lake Lanier, GA




On Sat, Jul 25, 2015 at 12:41 PM, patricia barkley-higginbottom via
CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

>   Have an original equipment Barient 27 two speed self tailer winch on my
> 35-3 which allows the genoa sheet to slip under load, even when there are
> three wraps on the winch. The self tailer does not hold the line in a
> predictable fashion, releasing at the most inconvenient times., Is this a
> common problem, and is there anyway of improving the grip with either a
> replacement part or modifying the existing serrations. The sheets are
> relatively new, and only one winch has this problem.
> Harold
> Celtic Spirit
> Hamilton, ON.
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