I trim main on a Swan 42 with pretty well maintained winches, clutches and line. We are constantly fighting slippage when anything gets slightly worn. The main sheet winches take 5 wraps minimum when going upwind or they will slip. High tech line is great, but it is slick stuff.
Those multiple wraps seem to get a lot more grippy in ducking situations - and the Swan 42 has a very skinny rudder. Tim Mojito C&C 35-3 Branford, CT > On Jul 27, 2015, at 2:24 PM, Martin DeYoung via CnC-List > <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > > On Calypso with her 1970 Barient 36 primaries and the slippery hi-tech sheets > we need 5 to 6 wraps to reduce slippage. With older well-worn sheets (used > for deliveries and cruising) we can get back down to 3 to 4 wraps. To avoid > unpleasant surprises when tacking with 5 to 6 wraps on the winch we practiced > the best way to clear the sheet off the winch and insure it runs clear. > After each tack we “fake down the line” starting at the winch to clear any > twists induced by the extra wraps. > > The 1970 Barient’s drums have been worn smooth over the decades of heavy use. > They are not self-tailing winches. I do plan to roughen up the drums a bit > by dimpling the surface with a nail set and hammer. This project falls well > behind the current deck restoration efforts already in progress. > > On Sailing Anarchy either in the Fixit or Cruising forums there is a topic > thread regarding how to roughen up a winch drum either DIY or using an > outside service. > > Martin DeYoung > Calypso > 1971 C&C 43 > Seattle > > > > From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of > Jean-Francois J Rivard via CnC-List > Sent: Monday, July 27, 2015 7:46 AM > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Cc: Jean-Francois J Rivard; patrici...@cogeco.ca > Subject: Stus-List Stus list winches > > Hi Herold. > > Sounds obvious but I'll say it anyway: Have you tried 4 wraps? > > I read somewhere that the "Correct" number of turns is 4. On my boat it's a > necessity, when It's blowing, 3 wraps is a waste of time and effort, they all > slip. > > 4 turns gets it done. > > -Francois Rivard > 1990 34+ "Take Five" > Lake Lanier, GA > > > > > On Sat, Jul 25, 2015 at 12:41 PM, patricia barkley-higginbottom via > CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > > > Have an original equipment Barient 27 two speed self tailer winch on my > > 35-3 which allows the genoa sheet to slip under load, even when there are > > three wraps on the winch. The self tailer does not hold the line in a > > predictable fashion, releasing at the most inconvenient times., Is this a > > common problem, and is there anyway of improving the grip with either a > > replacement part or modifying the existing serrations. The sheets are > > relatively new, and only one winch has this problem. > > Harold > > Celtic Spirit > > Hamilton, ON. > _______________________________________________ > > Email address: > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom > of page at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com >
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