Ok, now I am worried
I have 5 group 27 wet cell batteries under my cabin sole. They are not
wented. And I live aboard full time with wife and 2 dogs. Am I living
dangerously ? I never smelled anything. What are the symptoms ?
Ahmet
C&C 25 "Tabasco"
Irwin 43 "Waterdancer"
Boston, MA
On Nov 19, 2015 12:50 PM, "Robert Boyer via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
wrote:

> I DO use AGMs--so, vapors are not an issue.  I have some space just
> forward of the mast under the settee but close to the boat's centerline
> that might work for battery storage--I have to check out the dimensions but
> this would remove weight aft and add it close to the center of gravity.
>
> Bob
>
> Bob Boyer
> S/V Rainy Days / Annapolis MD
> 1983 C&C Landfall 38 - Hull #230
> email: dainyr...@icloud.com <dainyr...@icloud.com>
> blog: dainyrays.blogspot.com
>
> "There is nothing--absolutely nothing--half so much worth doing as simply
> messing about in boats."  --Kenneth Grahame
>
> On Nov 19, 2015, at 11:54 AM, Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Bob,
>
> as you said, the current from the house batteries should never be high, so
> the wires should not be an issue. However, if you calculate your load at 30
> A and select appropriate gauge of the wire (for distance), make sure that
> you install an appropriate fuse (probably not larger than 50 A) (I would do
> it right on the terminal, but ABYC says, within 6 or 7 in from the
> terminal) to protect that wire. Such fuse would probably allow for one
> quick start of the motor (it would not allow for cranking a cranky motor).
> But if you want to be able to use your house batteries for cranking, you
> have to allow for at least 80 – 100 A in that cable (i.e. appropriate
> gauge). Keep in mind that if you install bigger cable, your voltage loss
> would be less, so you would have more energy available to you lights and
> instruments (instead of heating the cabin).
>
> One other thought. I am not sure if putting batteries under the V-berth is
> the best idea. As much as you could, you should avoid placing heavy objects
> far away from the centre of gravity. In heavy weather the heavy bow would
> be your enemy, not a friend.
>
> And finally, at least theoretically, you should not install the normal
> lead-acid batteries in the cabin (where they are not vented directly
> outside). If you want to install batteries below, you should use the gel or
> AGM batteries. This, in turn, leads to a more complex charging system
> (especially, if you are going to use AGMs).
>
> just a few ideas to consider
>
> Marek
> 1994 C270, “Legato”
> Ottawa, ON
>
>
> *From:* Robert Boyer via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 19, 2015 11:24 AM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc:* Robert Boyer <dainyr...@icloud.com>
> *Subject:* Stus-List Changing weight distribution in Landfall 38
>
> I am equipping my boat for 8 months per year of cruising in the Bahamas.
> I have added a 19-gallon auxiliary diesel tank where my holding tank was
> located (under the navigation seat) which adds weight aft.  I currently
> have 4 group 27 batteries which will be eventually upgraded to Group
> 31's--these also are located aft.
>
> I have been considering moving 2 or 3 batteries from the aft cockpit
> locker to some dead space under the v-berth.  This would take some weight
> from the aft and add it forward.  (My boat currently sits about 2" high at
> the bow and maybe 1 inch low at the stern with no one aboard but full fuel
> tanks.)
>
> I could configure the batteries such that the new forward bank could be
> the house bank and the starting bank (which I could probably reduce to 1 or
> 2 batteries) could remain aft.  My problem is sizing the cables that would
> run from the forward batteries to the aft controls.  As I see it, these
> cables would never carry more than 30 amps (maximum charging from my solar
> panels) unless I needed them for starting (in the event of a dead starting
> battery).
>
> Does anyone have any comments or suggestions on this matter?
>
> Bob
>
> Bob Boyer
> S/V Rainy Days / Annapolis MD
> 1983 C&C Landfall 38 - Hull #230
> email: dainyr...@icloud.com <dainyr...@icloud.com>
> blog: dainyrays.blogspot.com
>
> "There is nothing--absolutely nothing--half so much worth doing as simply
> messing about in boats."  --Kenneth Grahame
>
>
>
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