On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 7:46 PM, Ahmet <ah...@sailnomad.com> wrote:

> I did the same on my 25. Although it is probably stronger, I am hesitant
> on putting too much load, so that I don't bend the toerail.
> I did actually tapped the toerail to reduce the load on the washer/nut
> under the deck.
> It will probably be a b**ch to get it out, having the stainless bolts on
> the aluminum rail, but I'll worry about that later.
> In general, I love the conversion. No more leaks on the decks, more room,
> and solid.
> Ahmet
> 1973 C&C 25 "Tabasco"
> Winthrop, MA
>
> On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 6:47 PM, Rick Brass via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> I switched the stanchion bases on my 38 a few years ago. I believe I used
>> the type C base from South Shore, which I see are up to $75 each now. At
>> the time I think they were less than $50, and the whole job cost about the
>> $450 you mentioned.
>>
>>
>>
>> I did reuse one of the existing 5/16 machine screws in the toe rail on
>> each of the stanchion bases. The existing machine screws are more than long
>> enough to handle the added thickness of the base. I did have to mark and
>> drill an additional hole in the base of the toe rail & through the hull to
>> deck joint (which took a ¼-20x3” or 3 ½” machine screw plus fender washer
>> for backing and a Nylok nut), plus a hole in the vertical part of the toe
>> rail for the (#10, IIRC) screw that secures the base and locks in the
>> stanchion. All told, it took about 5 or 6 hours to do the installation, and
>> it is a 2 man job to install the bolts through the hull to deck joint.
>>
>>
>>
>> My lifelines had enough adjustment in the toggles to reuse the old
>> lifelines in the new installation, but YMMV.
>>
>>
>>
>> I’m happy I did the change for the following reasons:
>>
>>
>>
>> It is amazing how much extra room you feel you have when going forward –
>> even though it is only about 5 inches on each side.
>>
>> The hole for the stanchion is tilted inward, so the stanchions are
>> vertical  but within the perimeter of the boat (someone else mentioned that
>> they thought the stanchions might be tilted out and catch on pilings, which
>> I believe was a problem with the 29-2, 33-2, and other models from the
>> early 80s).
>>
>> On my boat the vertical leg of the toe rail is on the inboard side of the
>> rail, so the stanchion base is on the outside of the rail. Water sheets aft
>> and drains a lot better than it ever did with the deck mounted stanchions.
>>
>> And most importantly, the toe rail mounted bases seem to be stronger than
>> the deck mounted ones. I had to repair the deck and cracks in all the
>> locations where the deck mounted bases had been. Some were just cracks in
>> the gelcoat, but others were actual damage to the skin of the deck with
>> resulting leaks into the core. Refinishing the deck is also one of my
>> projects for this coming season – partly to make up for the unsightly spots
>> left behind by the old bases. With the new stanchion bases I don’t expect
>> to see any future deck repairs; at least in those areas.
>>
>>
>>
>> Rick Brass
>>
>> Washington, NC
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of 
>> *Barbara
>> Hickson Fellers via CnC-List
>> *Sent:* Monday, January 25, 2016 11:06 AM
>> *To:* C&C List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
>> *Cc:* Barbara Hickson Fellers <blhick...@yahoo.com>
>> *Subject:* Stus-List Toerail mounted stanchion bases
>>
>>
>>
>> I'm going to paint and re-nonskid my deck when the weather stabilizes and
>> was considering the value of moving the stanchions outboard to mount on the
>> toerail. I was under the impression that the toerail mounted bases would be
>> screwed into the rail using the same holes but a longer bolt.  Not the case
>> said Holland Marine when I was inquiring. You must drill new holes thru
>> your rail to use the new bases. Is this right? Has anyone done this?  My
>> toerail holes are 3.94" on center. In addition to the cost($450 USD), this
>> sounds like a ton of work to add a couple of inches to the side decks and
>> MAYBE get a better sheet lead. Any thoughts or opinions appreciated.
>> Barbara L. Hickson
>>
>> "Flight Risk" C&C 33-1
>>
>> Chas., SC.
>>
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