Wow. I've had just enough alcohol to not take that as condescending. Thanks for the input on the 110.
From: Josh Muckley via CnC-List Sent: Friday, January 29, 2016 8:02 PM To: C&C List Cc: Josh Muckley Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 26 Encounter sail question Bagged out is shockingly hard to determine as a cruiser, especially when not on a beat. The crispness is not a particularly good indicator. I have a furling headsail which works pretty well up to 35 or 40° apparent wind. Higher than that and it start getting soft on the leading edge. Sorta fine for cruisers. Not even competitive against racers. The handicap break points are why common sizes for racing sails are 110 and 135. If I were you, trying to reduce tenderness for a bare minimum expense (notice I didn't use the term investment), then I would convert the 110 that you already have to a 110 furler. For a lighthanded boat you'll be amazed at how much easier it is to quickly tack. Double check me on the race rules, there's a caveat regarding a furler. Something about being stuck with the sail you chose at the start. Josh On Jan 29, 2016 6:53 PM, "Evan Morgan via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: Thanks Josh. Ill try to run through all your points... 1. Older than dirt, but not bagged out and fairly (given it's age) crisp. Its just a LOT of sail up there. 2. 1, maybe 2 bodies available as meat. More than likely, just 1. 3. Talked to our PHRF guy (he'll actually be my trimmer...I'm his Wed night J24 trimmer) and I get 6 for furled, then 0 for a 145, 3 for 111-135, or 6 for a 100-110 4. No loft locally. I have decent 110 and 135 that could be converted. I had my 145 converted for a reasonable price. If I were taking this seriously, I'd look toward new. As it is, though, she'll be for sale by the end of the year as we now own a Pearson 424 on which we'll cruise full time starting late 2017. I just want to see what she'll do against the non-Js at our club. ;-) Thanks for your input. It does incite some thought! Evan From: Josh Muckley via CnC-List Sent: Friday, January 29, 2016 6:17 PM To: C&C List Cc: Josh Muckley Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 26 Encounter sail question Evan, I'm answering your questions generally since I don't own a 26 Encounter. First, how old is you current 145? A blown out headsail can contribute significantly to the amount of heel. Second, when you race do you plan to have "rail meat"? Even just one or two people can significantly improve heel and pointing ability. Third, have you looked at the local PHRF handicaps? Most areas give extra points for furlers but take away for larger sails. You want to find the balance. Forth, have you talked to a sail loft? Local is preferred. A local loft can give tremendously valuable guidance on optimal sail size, PHRF handicaps, and a good balance between having a new sail made or an old one re-cut. When I installed a furler on my McGregor 26C, it was going to cost me ~$600 IIRC to have my old sail re-cut or $1200 for a new sail. $600 for an old blown out 155 to be re-cut seemed too high. Hope that gives you some things to consider. Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk 1989 C&C 37+ Solomons, MD On Jan 29, 2016 4:26 PM, "Evan Morgan via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: This one is for the (I think) two of you who race their Encounter. We've had Wind Affair several years, but used her solely for cruising. During that time, we've learned how to handle her tenderness but have always been over powered with a 145 up front, even with a reefed main. I've been talked into do some beer can races with her this season and would like to know what headsail size works for you best all around. I'd rather only get one sail converted for my furler. So what do you use? Evan Wind Affair C&C 26 Encounter Indianapolis _______________________________________________ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com _______________________________________________ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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