Pegathy is still using an AutoHelm 3000. It's a wheel pilot on a 38' boat. It 
shouldn't work, but it does. Keeps a bearing, and tacks as advertised. Even in 
heavy wind, though I have to use the wheel break to help stabilize the wheel - 
there's not enough motor resistance in heavy wind to keep the wheel from 
turning. It's worked offshore in heavy wind up and down the east coast. 'Course 
most of my sailing is on the Chesapeake - much easier on an autopilot. The 
belts do break, so keep spares.
A new autohelm has been on the buy list since I got the boat 5 years ago, but 
there are other things, too - like sails. Maybe next year. Meanwhile, I've been 
happy with it, and it keeps on chugging.
Dan SheerPegathy - LF38Rock Creek off the Patapsco

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Today's Topics:

  1. Re:  Roller Furling Line (Marek Dziedzic)
  2.  Autopilot (Paul H.) (Paul Hood)
  3. Re:  Autopilot (Paul H.) (G Collins)
  4. Re:  Autopilot (Paul H.) (Josh Muckley)
  5.  Throttle and shift levers (Bradley Lumgair)
  6. Re:  Throttle and shift levers (Tim Sippel)


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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2016 12:03:28 -0400
From: Marek Dziedzic <dziedzi...@hotmail.com>
To: <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Subject: Re: Stus-List Roller Furling Line
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If you want to be really picky, there is a direct correlation. Not necessarily 
1:1, but it is obviously, there.

 

I went with a standard double braid, but we have much less choice locally. A 
lower stretch line would be probably better, but I never noticed the stretching 
that someone mentioned a few messages before. This may depend also on the size 
of the boat and the size of the genoa - mine are only 27? and 135%.

 

With this kind of line I bought double the length of the boat plus some safety 
margin. I think I bought 70?, but at $0.5/ft. the extra 10 ft. did not matter. 
That $5 was a good insurance and what I cut off the end will be used, for sure, 
somewhere else.

 

Marek

1994 C270, ?Legato?

Ottawa, ON

 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Josh Muckley 
via CnC-List
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 09:15
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Subject: Re: Stus-List Roller Furling Line

 

Jonathan, 

You are correct there isn't a direct correlation between furling line length 
and foot length.  As I previously stated mine happens to be roughly 1:1 
averaged over the entire furl.  I am simply visually approximating the diameter 
of a full drum compared to a full sail roll.  You're right the circumference of 
the roll during the first few wraps is much smaller than when the entire sail 
is rolled up.  Yet the diameter of the drum stays nearly the same.  I'll have 
to measure the actual length of line needed to furl next time I think about it. 
 It will be interesting to see exactly what the ratio is.

Josh

On Jun 12, 2016 7:49 AM, "Indigo via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

I may be totally wrong, but I don't think there is a direct correlation between 
the length of the foot and length of furling line. The marker the diameter of 
the drum, the longer the circumference and thus the longer the line required 
for one rotation - but the circumference of a roll of sail will be potentially 
very different.

--
Jonathan
Indigo C&C 35III
SOUTHPORT CT

> On Jun 12, 2016, at 07:01, Josh Muckley via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
> <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:
>
> plus the foot length (24')


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Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2016 21:06:22 -0400
From: "Paul Hood" <paul.h...@rogers.com>
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Subject: Stus-List Autopilot (Paul H.)
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I have an old Autohelm 5000 autopilot...yes it appears to be original.
Boats obviously relatively new for me and although an autopilot is on the
wish list, its not here yet.  If this thing doesn't work or isn't worth even
trying, then I'll immediately ripping it out.  I'd use the controller hole
immediately for something else.  Here are the pics of the pieces.  It seems
to be all there and I'm not sure where to start to test.  Not in the water
yet.

https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0Bw4NOPYfe9OWeWRDSl82MG1Wa2s&usp=shar
ing


Paul Hood
'82 C&C34 Georgian Bay






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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2016 01:45:05 +0000
From: G Collins <cnclistforw...@hotmail.com>
To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Cc: Paul Hood <paul.h...@rogers.com>
Subject: Re: Stus-List Autopilot (Paul H.)
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Hi Paul

I'd test it!  Until 2 years ago my boat had an Autohelm 4000 in use, it 
was fine for holding a straight line but not so good for tacking.  I 
actually sold it on ebay for an amount that surprised me.

Check Raymarine's web site, they have (had?) old manuals on there.  And 
it looks like a good install of the drive down below.

Your 3rd picture with the Brookes and Gatehouse is not part of the 
pilot, that is the old brain of a wind instrument.

Graham Collins
Secret Plans
C&C 35-III #11

On 2016-06-12 10:06 PM, Paul Hood via CnC-List wrote:
> I have an old Autohelm 5000 autopilot...yes it appears to be original.
> Boats obviously relatively new for me and although an autopilot is on the
> wish list, its not here yet.  If this thing doesn't work or isn't worth even
> trying, then I'll immediately ripping it out.  I'd use the controller hole
> immediately for something else.  Here are the pics of the pieces.  It seems
> to be all there and I'm not sure where to start to test.  Not in the water
> yet.
>
> https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0Bw4NOPYfe9OWeWRDSl82MG1Wa2s&usp=shar
> ing
>
>
> Paul Hood
> '82 C&C34 Georgian Bay
>
>
>
>
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2016 02:58:43 +0000
From: Josh Muckley <muckl...@gmail.com>
To: "C&C List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Subject: Re: Stus-List Autopilot (Paul H.)
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I agree.  Try it out and see.  If it works then you may be able to postpone
your investment in a new system.  I think the wind instrument is/was
providing input to the AP so that it could sail to the wind not just a
magnetic coarse.

It looks like the 3 knobs are for adjusting the response time.  The manual
will obviously explain.

Good luck,
Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C&C 37+
Solomons, MD
On Jun 12, 2016 9:09 PM, "Paul Hood via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
wrote:

> I have an old Autohelm 5000 autopilot...yes it appears to be original.
> Boats obviously relatively new for me and although an autopilot is on the
> wish list, its not here yet.  If this thing doesn't work or isn't worth
> even
> trying, then I'll immediately ripping it out.  I'd use the controller hole
> immediately for something else.  Here are the pics of the pieces.  It seems
> to be all there and I'm not sure where to start to test.  Not in the water
> yet.
>
>
> https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0Bw4NOPYfe9OWeWRDSl82MG1Wa2s&usp=shar
> ing
>
>
> Paul Hood
> '82 C&C34 Georgian Bay
>
>
>
>
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Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2016 11:38:29 +0000
From: Bradley Lumgair <lumg...@hotmail.com>
To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Subject: Stus-List Throttle and shift levers
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I reset the tension on the throttle cable before splashing this spring so the 
throttle would stay where set. Broke the plastic throttle lever on the weekend. 
So I ordered both the stainless ones from Marinepartdepot for less than half 
what Edson is asking. Hoping it's not a rip off
The shifter lever on the left side of the pedestal seems to operate in reverse 
of what would be logical, as in I pull the lever back to shift to forward, is 
this standard for a 1985 33-2? Or has someone messed with the routing of the 
linkage?
Thanks
Brad
"Pulse" 1985 C&C 33 Mk II
Lake Huron

[X][X]
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Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2016 12:56:51 +0000
From: Tim Sippel <tim.sip...@rci.rogers.com>
To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Cc: Bradley Lumgair <lumg...@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Stus-List Throttle and shift levers
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Hi Brad ,
On my 33 mKii shift lever goes forward for forward , pull back for reverse.
I have the stainless throttle lever , but not shift lever as the curve of the 
stainless lever hit the pedestal guard and  wouldn?t engage forward


Cheers




Tim
Matico C&C 33mkII

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Subject: Stus-List Throttle and shift levers

I reset the tension on the throttle cable before splashing this spring so the 
throttle would stay where set. Broke the plastic throttle lever on the weekend. 
So I ordered both the stainless ones from Marinepartdepot for less than half 
what Edson is asking. Hoping it's not a rip off
The shifter lever on the left side of the pedestal seems to operate in reverse 
of what would be logical, as in I pull the lever back to shift to forward, is 
this standard for a 1985 33-2? Or has someone messed with the routing of the 
linkage?
Thanks
Brad
"Pulse" 1985 C&C 33 Mk II
Lake Huron
[X][X]
I'd rather be sailing





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