Sorry … I meant (methane?). Some of the people I have dealt with here refered to it as methane when trying to get my tank certified. I believe it may actually be a mixture that has a lot of methane in it
I am hoping to get all of the actual specifications for my tank when I pick it up today. That way I can email businesses asking for the cost of a new tank with those specifications, valves, etc … I can email other businesses asking if they can supply the specific gas at specific pressure in the specified tank. I am hoping that it is as simple as dropping off a tank in the spring and having the tank/gas company ship it to wherever their depot is and then picking it up in a week or so filled. Mike From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2016 10:39 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Hoyt, Mike Subject: Re: Stus-List CNG tank refill, purchase or exchange in Canada OR the US Thanks Joe, Richard The nearest car filling station to Halifax is in Montreal. At least I do not have to transport across an international border. Montreal is a nice place to visit as well except that hockey ended there in February this year (another topic). I have heard that our local gas company is exploring the idea of getting a filling station locally though … I believe that these are tanks that should be able to be ordered thru local sources. It may be that we need to change the fittings on boat end but we should be able to purchase a tank (even if special order) and then rather than asking for CNG we could specify the actual gas name (methane) and have filled someplace local. The two issues I have been finding are businesses that handle methane gas (or CNG) and the CGA 350 adaptor with the left hand thread. I am guessing that converting boat to accept a more standard fitting and purchasing a tank with that fitting may lead to more success. The one option I do not consider realistic is limiting the use of our cooking appliances. Why limit the enjoyment of our boats? Mike From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2016 10:26 AM To: 'cnc-list@cnc-list.com' Cc: Della Barba, Joe Subject: Re: Stus-List CNG tank refill, purchase or exchange in Canada OR the US If you have a CNG filling station for cars, you can buy the pieces to make a filling adapter and spend about $2 per fill after that! Joe Coquina C&C 35 MK I with CNG stove From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Richard N. Bush via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2016 9:15 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Cc: Richard N. Bush Subject: Re: Stus-List CNG tank refill, purchase or exchange in Canada OR the US Mike, I feel your pain! I have the CNG and I cannot even find a place that will attempt to refill it, except for the place in Oregon; which would require shipping the tank to them, having it filled and then having it shipped back to me....not a viable option for me... I have looked into converting and it is a bout a $2000 project... anyone else out there with any ideas? Thanks Richard 1985 C&C 37 CB; Ohio River, Mile 584.4 Richard N. Bush 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 502-584-7255 -----Original Message----- From: Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> To: cnc-list <cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> Cc: Hoyt, Mike <mike.h...@impgroup.com<mailto:mike.h...@impgroup.com>> Sent: Thu, Jun 23, 2016 8:32 am Subject: Stus-List CNG tank refill, purchase or exchange in Canada We discussed this three months ago and I have been working on it since. The cooking fuel on our Frers 33 and on a friend’s Sabre 34 as well as a number of other boats manufactured in the 1980s was Compressed Natural Gas (CNG). We have a gas distributor in Nova Scotia (Heritage Gas) that supplies large CNG bottles to commercial customers where they do not have pipes to supply natural gas. They do not have a consumer refilling side. I have found that since our boats were purchased in US (and built there) the CNG canisters we have are DOT certified (which is US only) and not CTC so have no Canadian certification. In order to have refilled they need to be certified in Canada and then we need to find a place to have them refilled. One option is to purchase new tanks the same way we do for propane. The reason I am sticking with CNG and not converting to propane is that I do not have a propane locker. CNG is lighter than air and does not require one. My only option for Propane would be to hang a tank off the pushpit, modify the gas lines to reach it and modify the oven to accept it. Refilling the tanks is a much more attractive option. I have purchased the boat CNG refill adaptor that Joe mentioned below. I also have an idea where I may be able to refill a tank and I have managed to find one Canadian certified tank. All of that was a three month long endeavor. I then had an idea. Surely it is possible in Canada to purchase a new tank of the correct specifications that is certified bot Canada and US. It must also be possible to have this filled as a normal course of business thru one of our regular gas and tank supply companies such as Praxair or Air Liquide. Does anyone on this list have experience with where to purchase these tanks with the appropriate valves and who would fill them? The alternative would be to drive to the nearest place that exchanges these tanks which I believe is Camden Maine. That is a 12 hour driove and involves transporting gas canisters over an International border … Thanks Mike Persistence Halifax, NS From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com?>] On Behalf Of Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 3:10 PM To: 'cnc-list@cnc-list.com' Cc: Della Barba, Joe Subject: Re: Stus-List Stus-CNG tank refills The tanks is a modified SCUBA tank. 1100 PSI is about just under half full. They are usually about 2200-2400 when topped off. You need to go on FleaBay and look for an adapter to hook your tank up to the CNG station to fill it. They hold about $4 worth of gas. Your other choice is to find a marina that does CNG tank exchange for about $100! Something like THIS is what you need: http://www.morgan38.org/morgan38/index.php?threads/cng-adapter-to-refuel-cng-tanks-from-cng-vehicle-refuelling-pump.10262/ Joe Coquina C&C 35 MK I CNG Stove _______________________________________________ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you like what we do, please help us pay for our costs by donating. All Contributions are greatly appreciated!
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