Robert,

 

Your description below of the requirement is 100% correct while you are a
sailing vessel.  Turn on your engine, you become a power vessel and the
steaming light is required.

 

Ron

 

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Appears my 'electrical question' veered off into another discussion on
'navigation lights'........my fault when I said I was told by a fellow club
member that my 'masthead/steaming light' was not a legal requirement for my
boat.  I took the following quote from the West Marine site supplied my
Marek:

"Sailing vessels less than 20m in length need to show sidelights and a stern
light. These may be combined into a bicolor light and stern light, or a
single tricolor light at the top of the mast."

My boat is "less than 20m in length".

Whether the fixture is a legal requirement or not, I am going to replace it
with one similar because I want the 'foredeck light', but if it is indeed a
legal requirement, I want to comply as well.

So back to the beginning, the fixture I saw at the Binnacle looks very much
the same as the existing one......I like this as I would not have to drill
new holes to attach but if I have to, so be it.

The new fixture only has one wire to attach whereas mine appears to have
three (not exactly sure as I have not yet removed it from the mast although
there are three existing the base of the mast) and I have no idea how to
connect it.

There must be a logical way to connect it?

Rob



On 2016-09-12 2:02 PM, Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List wrote:

Rob,

 

As Frederick said, whoever told you that was mistaken. 

 

This illustrates what you have to show:
<http://www.westmarine.com/WestAdvisor/Navigation-Light-Rules>
http://www.westmarine.com/WestAdvisor/Navigation-Light-Rules (scroll down to
a picture at the bottom of the page).  Keep in mind that HOW you display the
light is up to you (one light, combination of several lights), as long as
you display the RIGHT COLOURS and in the RIGHT SEGMENTS.

 

Marek

 

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Sent: Monday, September 12, 2016 11:29

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Cc: robert 

Subject: Stus-List Electrical Question

 

Marek:

The light on the front of the mast about 1/2 way up just above the spreaders
is the one I am talking about......I was told it is no longer a legal
requirement but the 'anchor light' at the top of the mast is a legal
requirement......it can be seen 360 degrees but the light 1/2 way up the
front of the mast can not be seen 360 degrees.

I didn't think a single wire made sense also and did not buy the fixture. I
will buy the more expensive Aqua Signal.

Thanks all for your input.

Rob Abbott
AZURA
C&C 32 - 84
Halifax, N.S. 

On 2016-09-12 10:24 AM, Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List wrote:

Rob,

I am not sure to which part you refer as "no longer legally required". You
don't need the deck light, for sure, but you do need a steaming light,
unless you can show a 360 degrees white light in some other way (e.g. turn
off the stern light and turn on the anchor light at the top of the mast).

A single wire out of the combination light does not make sense. You need at
least two, unless they try using the mast as the ground (then I would not
buy it). Most of the combo lights come with separate leads for each
function, i.e. negative/ground (usually common), positive - steaming,
positive - deck light. Some combo lights had a switch in the unit that allow
to run the power with a single positive wire (plus the negative). If this is
one like that, the switch turns e.g. steaming light when you turn it on, but
if you switch it off and on again, it would turn the deck light, and again -
both. You would have to decide if that meets your needs.

If it really has a single wire, I am afraid, you will have to bite the
bullet and spend twice (3x?) as much on the Aqua Signal. 

Marine Outfitters (Kingston) has very similar light (for very similar price)
with 3 wires:
<http://www.marineoutfitters.ca/index.cfm?category=10002%7C10000%7C11312&pro
duct=38614998&code=900000021547>
http://www.marineoutfitters.ca/index.cfm?category=10002|10000|11312&product=
38614998&code=900000021547.

Marek

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Sent: Monday, September 12, 2016 08:50

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Cc: robert 

Subject: Stus-List Electrical Question

When up the mast the other day, I noticed that my 'Steaming, Bow, 
Foredeck Light' was in pretty bad shape.....probably the original 32 
years old. Will probably replace it when the mast is hauled later this 
Fall although I understand this light is no longer legally 
required.......but I do like the halogen foredeck light.

I found this one linked below at the Binnacle.......almost similar to 
the existing one:

Lights-Steaming-Spreader-&-Deck-Lights/c23_156/p1349/AAA-MASTHEAD-/-DECK-LIG
HT/product_info.html

It appears, without removing mine, that there are three (3) white wires 
exiting the foot of the mast connecting to 'green, red and black' 
......I assume the green is negative, red is positive and black in ground.

Here's the question......the new light fixture at the Binnacle only has 
one white wire as a connection.......there is (are) no other places on 
the back of the fixture to connect other wires. So if my old fixture 
has 3 connections (assuming it does but I have not removed it to be 
sure) and this new fixture only has one 'white wire', how do you connect it?

As you can tell, I am no electrician.

Rob Abbott
AZURA
C&C 32 - 84
Halifax, N.S.

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