I am having a bow roller/stemhead fitting made for my C&C 35 mkll... I am 
looking for advice an choosing the proper size and type of anchor to use. My 
fabricator wants to know what I am going to use to properly size the 
fabrication. I am leaning towards the Delta or a cqr/plow style of anchor. I am 
in the Great Lakes, so most of my anchoring is in weeds, mud, clay and some 
sand. 

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>   5. Re:  Slip Choice (Dennis C.)
>   6. Re:  Slip Choice (Gary Russell)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2016 14:29:06 -0400
> From: "Gary Nylander" <gnylan...@atlanticbb.net>
> To: <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Subject: Stus-List Butyl sealant
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> I know there have been many mentions of the best place to get the butyl we
> use to bed deck fittings, toe rails and whatever. Of course, I have that on
> my old hard drive which cratered... can anyone give me the best source?
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> From: "Dennis C." <capt...@gmail.com>
> To: CnClist <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Butyl sealant
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> http://www.pbase.com/mainecruising/butyl_tape
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> Dennis C.
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> On Thu, Oct 20, 2016 at 1:29 PM, Gary Nylander via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
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>> I know there have been many mentions of the best place to get the butyl we
>> use to bed deck fittings, toe rails and whatever. Of course, I have that on
>> my old hard drive which cratered?.. can anyone give me the best source?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks, Gary
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> Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2016 19:05:36 +0000
> From: Kevin Driscoll <kevindrisc...@gmail.com>
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> Subject: Re: Stus-List Butyl sealant
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> What Dennis said. Don't bother with anything else. (I've tried others...)
> 
> On Thu, Oct 20, 2016 at 11:35 AM Dennis C. via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
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>> http://www.pbase.com/mainecruising/butyl_tape
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>> Dennis C.
>> 
>> On Thu, Oct 20, 2016 at 1:29 PM, Gary Nylander via CnC-List <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
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>> I know there have been many mentions of the best place to get the butyl we
>> use to bed deck fittings, toe rails and whatever. Of course, I have that on
>> my old hard drive which cratered?.. can anyone give me the best source?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks, Gary
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> Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2016 09:23:57 -0300
> From: robert <robertabb...@eastlink.ca>
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> Subject: Stus-List Slip Choice
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> I have had a boat on the same mooring for approx. 20 years and have 
> enjoyed the ease (stress free) of coming and going from it, especially 
> since I do mostly single handed sailing.  However, I am considering 
> getting a 'slip' at our marina for next season.  There are several 
> currently available, and with a 'bow in' docking (my preference) I have 
> the choice to do it from both port or starboard docking.
> 
> My boat has an 'offset prop shaft' which, I believe, accentuates the 
> prop walk to port when starting in reverse.
> 
> So my question is "Is there a preference for either a port or starboard 
> docking (bow in) with my prop walk situation?"  Reasons why?  Or does it 
> make any difference?
> 
> Rob Abbott
> AZURA
> C&C 32 - 84
> Halifax, N.S.
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> Message: 5
> Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2016 07:41:49 -0500
> From: "Dennis C." <capt...@gmail.com>
> To: CnClist <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Slip Choice
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> Shouldn't make any difference coming in.  Will have affect leaving the
> slip.  Are there any considerations when backing out into the fairway or
> marina?
> 
> I'd look more at the prevailing wind and choose the side that is downwind
> most of the time.  We had a temporary slip in Pensacola with a port side
> pier.  The wind was almost always blowing us away from the pier.  Pain in
> the butt to angle in and have crew leap off and secure the boat before the
> wind blew us into the neighbor's boat.
> 
> Personally, my preference is a port side pier because I back in.  Prop walk
> brings boat to the pier.
> 
> Dennis C.
> Touche' 35-1 #83
> Mandeville, LA
> 
> On Fri, Oct 21, 2016 at 7:23 AM, robert via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> I have had a boat on the same mooring for approx. 20 years and have
>> enjoyed the ease (stress free) of coming and going from it, especially
>> since I do mostly single handed sailing.  However, I am considering getting
>> a 'slip' at our marina for next season.  There are several currently
>> available, and with a 'bow in' docking (my preference) I have the choice to
>> do it from both port or starboard docking.
>> 
>> My boat has an 'offset prop shaft' which, I believe, accentuates the prop
>> walk to port when starting in reverse.
>> 
>> So my question is "Is there a preference for either a port or starboard
>> docking (bow in) with my prop walk situation?"  Reasons why?  Or does it
>> make any difference?
>> 
>> Rob Abbott
>> AZURA
>> C&C 32 - 84
>> Halifax, N.S.
>> 
>> 
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> Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2016 08:41:34 -0400
> From: Gary Russell <captnga...@gmail.com>
> To: "C&C List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Slip Choice
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> Hi Rob,
>     If your prop walks to port as you apply reverse, you want to tie up
> port to.  That way you can use prop walk to your advantage.  You can
> approach the dock with a slight angle toward the dock, and with a small
> burst of reverse to stop the boat, the stern will move to port and snug up
> against the dock.  When backing out of your slip you should give her a
> small burst of reverse and immediately shift to neutral.  That will stop
> the prop walk and allow you to turn whichever direction you want (including
> straight).
> 
> Gary
> S/V Kaylarah
> '90 C&C 37+
> East Greenwich, RI, USA
> 
> ~~~~~~~_/)~~~~~~
> 
> 
> On Fri, Oct 21, 2016 at 8:23 AM, robert via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> I have had a boat on the same mooring for approx. 20 years and have
>> enjoyed the ease (stress free) of coming and going from it, especially
>> since I do mostly single handed sailing.  However, I am considering getting
>> a 'slip' at our marina for next season.  There are several currently
>> available, and with a 'bow in' docking (my preference) I have the choice to
>> do it from both port or starboard docking.
>> 
>> My boat has an 'offset prop shaft' which, I believe, accentuates the prop
>> walk to port when starting in reverse.
>> 
>> So my question is "Is there a preference for either a port or starboard
>> docking (bow in) with my prop walk situation?"  Reasons why?  Or does it
>> make any difference?
>> 
>> Rob Abbott
>> AZURA
>> C&C 32 - 84
>> Halifax, N.S.
>> 
>> 
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> Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2016 08:54:25 -0400
> From: "Chuck Gilchrest" <csgilchr...@comcast.net>
> To: <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Subject: Stus-List Possible bargain C&C
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> Listers,
> 
> I have no affiliation with the seller nor do I know anything about this
> boat, but I stumbled across this Craigslist listing this morning:
> 
> http://southcoast.craigslist.org/boa/5838062124.html
> 
> 
> 
> Even basket case 40' C&Cs don't generally sell this cheap.
> 
> Chuck Gilchrest
> 
> S/V Half Magic 1983 Landfall 35
> 
> Padanaram, MA
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> Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2016 9:11:20 -0400
> From: Steve Thomas <sthom...@bellnet.ca>
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Slip Choice
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> I second Dennis's advice on getting a slip with the dock downwind. A cross 
> wind will swamp prop walk effects. I docked for many years in a slip in a 
> river that was always cross current and usually cross winded. Pretty hairy 
> getting in and out sometimes. 
> 
> Steve Thomas
> C&C27 MKIII 
> Port Stanley, ON
> 
> ---- "Dennis C. via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: 
> Shouldn't make any difference coming in.  Will have affect leaving the
> slip.  Are there any considerations when backing out into the fairway or
> marina?
> 
> I'd look more at the prevailing wind and choose the side that is downwind
> most of the time.  We had a temporary slip in Pensacola with a port side
> pier.  The wind was almost always blowing us away from the pier.  Pain in
> the butt to angle in and have crew leap off and secure the boat before the
> wind blew us into the neighbor's boat.
> 
> Personally, my preference is a port side pier because I back in.  Prop walk
> brings boat to the pier.
> 
> Dennis C.
> Touche' 35-1 #83
> Mandeville, LA
> 
> On Fri, Oct 21, 2016 at 7:23 AM, robert via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> I have had a boat on the same mooring for approx. 20 years and have
>> enjoyed the ease (stress free) of coming and going from it, especially
>> since I do mostly single handed sailing.  However, I am considering getting
>> a 'slip' at our marina for next season.  There are several currently
>> available, and with a 'bow in' docking (my preference) I have the choice to
>> do it from both port or starboard docking.
>> 
>> My boat has an 'offset prop shaft' which, I believe, accentuates the prop
>> walk to port when starting in reverse.
>> 
>> So my question is "Is there a preference for either a port or starboard
>> docking (bow in) with my prop walk situation?"  Reasons why?  Or does it
>> make any difference?
>> 
>> Rob Abbott
>> AZURA
>> C&C 32 - 84
>> Halifax, N.S.
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> 
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>> wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to:
>> https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
>> 
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>> 
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> 
> 
> 
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> 
> Message: 9
> Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2016 10:13:26 -0300
> From: robert <robertabb...@eastlink.ca>
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Stus-List Slip Choice
> Message-ID: <90d1d5a1-63bb-71fe-ce46-962ac9e8f...@eastlink.ca>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed"
> 
> A few of the available slips are in a rather confined area when backing 
> out into the fairway......I am in a slip now that has no restrictions 
> backing out but this slip belongs to a member who has hauled his 
> boat......it is prime 'realistate' at our club but I don't expect to get 
> one of these.
> 
> Our marinas (slips) face north-south which is where most of the 
> prevailing winds come from.....in the Summer, we get more west winds 
> than easterlies.
> 
> If I had a crew member with me, this wouldn't be as much of an issue but 
> most days I am alone.
> 
> I have been coming and going from the slip I am in now alone for almost 
> a month but there are no restrictions (narrow fairway, etc). I don't 
> expect to get one of these slips.
> 
> Rob Abbott
> AZURA
> C&C 32 - 84
> Halifax, N.S.
> 
>> On 2016-10-21 9:41 AM, Dennis C. via CnC-List wrote:
>> Shouldn't make any difference coming in.  Will have affect leaving the 
>> slip.  Are there any considerations when backing out into the fairway 
>> or marina?
>> 
>> I'd look more at the prevailing wind and choose the side that is 
>> downwind most of the time.  We had a temporary slip in Pensacola with 
>> a port side pier.  The wind was almost always blowing us away from the 
>> pier. Pain in the butt to angle in and have crew leap off and secure 
>> the boat before the wind blew us into the neighbor's boat.
>> 
>> Personally, my preference is a port side pier because I back in.  Prop 
>> walk brings boat to the pier.
>> 
>> Dennis C.
>> Touche' 35-1 #83
>> Mandeville, LA
>> 
>> On Fri, Oct 21, 2016 at 7:23 AM, robert via CnC-List 
>> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
>> 
>>    I have had a boat on the same mooring for approx. 20 years and
>>    have enjoyed the ease (stress free) of coming and going from it,
>>    especially since I do mostly single handed sailing. However, I am
>>    considering getting a 'slip' at our marina for next season.  There
>>    are several currently available, and with a 'bow in' docking (my
>>    preference) I have the choice to do it from both port or starboard
>>    docking.
>> 
>>    My boat has an 'offset prop shaft' which, I believe, accentuates
>>    the prop walk to port when starting in reverse.
>> 
>>    So my question is "Is there a preference for either a port or
>>    starboard docking (bow in) with my prop walk situation?" Reasons
>>    why?  Or does it make any difference?
>> 
>>    Rob Abbott
>>    AZURA
>>    C&C 32 - 84
>>    Halifax, N.S.
>> 
>> 
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