Greg

I have used a Delta Sure-set 35 exclusively for about 8 years. It has worked 
well from the Thousand Islands to the Bahamas.  I have sat through storms with 
gusts to 50 kts. and never drug.  I also carry a Bruce 45 and a Danforth 35 but 
am strongly thinking of removing them from the boat.

Mike
PERSUASION
C&C 37 K/CB
Long Sault

> On Oct 23, 2016, at 12:07 PM, Greg Swetka via CnC-List 
> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> 
> I am having a bow roller/stemhead fitting made for my C&C 35 mkll... I am 
> looking for advice an choosing the proper size and type of anchor to use. My 
> fabricator wants to know what I am going to use to properly size the 
> fabrication. I am leaning towards the Delta or a cqr/plow style of anchor. I 
> am in the Great Lakes, so most of my anchoring is in weeds, mud, clay and 
> some sand. 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
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>>  1.  Butyl sealant (Gary Nylander)
>>  2. Re:  Butyl sealant (Dennis C.)
>>  3. Re:  Butyl sealant (Kevin Driscoll)
>>  4.  Slip Choice (robert)
>>  5. Re:  Slip Choice (Dennis C.)
>>  6. Re:  Slip Choice (Gary Russell)
>>  7.  Possible bargain C&C (Chuck Gilchrest)
>>  8. Re:  Slip Choice (Steve Thomas)
>>  9.  Slip Choice (robert)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2016 14:29:06 -0400
>> From: "Gary Nylander" <gnylan...@atlanticbb.net>
>> To: <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
>> Subject: Stus-List Butyl sealant
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>> I know there have been many mentions of the best place to get the butyl we
>> use to bed deck fittings, toe rails and whatever. Of course, I have that on
>> my old hard drive which cratered... can anyone give me the best source?
>> 
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>> Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2016 13:35:02 -0500
>> From: "Dennis C." <capt...@gmail.com>
>> To: CnClist <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
>> Subject: Re: Stus-List Butyl sealant
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>> http://www.pbase.com/mainecruising/butyl_tape
>> 
>> Dennis C.
>> 
>> On Thu, Oct 20, 2016 at 1:29 PM, Gary Nylander via CnC-List <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
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>>> I know there have been many mentions of the best place to get the butyl we
>>> use to bed deck fittings, toe rails and whatever. Of course, I have that on
>>> my old hard drive which cratered?.. can anyone give me the best source?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks, Gary
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>> Message: 3
>> Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2016 19:05:36 +0000
>> From: Kevin Driscoll <kevindrisc...@gmail.com>
>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> Subject: Re: Stus-List Butyl sealant
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>> What Dennis said. Don't bother with anything else. (I've tried others...)
>> 
>> On Thu, Oct 20, 2016 at 11:35 AM Dennis C. via CnC-List <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
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>>> http://www.pbase.com/mainecruising/butyl_tape
>>> 
>>> Dennis C.
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Oct 20, 2016 at 1:29 PM, Gary Nylander via CnC-List <
>>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I know there have been many mentions of the best place to get the butyl we
>>> use to bed deck fittings, toe rails and whatever. Of course, I have that on
>>> my old hard drive which cratered?.. can anyone give me the best source?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks, Gary
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>> Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2016 09:23:57 -0300
>> From: robert <robertabb...@eastlink.ca>
>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> Subject: Stus-List Slip Choice
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>> I have had a boat on the same mooring for approx. 20 years and have 
>> enjoyed the ease (stress free) of coming and going from it, especially 
>> since I do mostly single handed sailing.  However, I am considering 
>> getting a 'slip' at our marina for next season.  There are several 
>> currently available, and with a 'bow in' docking (my preference) I have 
>> the choice to do it from both port or starboard docking.
>> 
>> My boat has an 'offset prop shaft' which, I believe, accentuates the 
>> prop walk to port when starting in reverse.
>> 
>> So my question is "Is there a preference for either a port or starboard 
>> docking (bow in) with my prop walk situation?"  Reasons why?  Or does it 
>> make any difference?
>> 
>> Rob Abbott
>> AZURA
>> C&C 32 - 84
>> Halifax, N.S.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ------------------------------
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>> Message: 5
>> Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2016 07:41:49 -0500
>> From: "Dennis C." <capt...@gmail.com>
>> To: CnClist <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
>> Subject: Re: Stus-List Slip Choice
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>> Shouldn't make any difference coming in.  Will have affect leaving the
>> slip.  Are there any considerations when backing out into the fairway or
>> marina?
>> 
>> I'd look more at the prevailing wind and choose the side that is downwind
>> most of the time.  We had a temporary slip in Pensacola with a port side
>> pier.  The wind was almost always blowing us away from the pier.  Pain in
>> the butt to angle in and have crew leap off and secure the boat before the
>> wind blew us into the neighbor's boat.
>> 
>> Personally, my preference is a port side pier because I back in.  Prop walk
>> brings boat to the pier.
>> 
>> Dennis C.
>> Touche' 35-1 #83
>> Mandeville, LA
>> 
>> On Fri, Oct 21, 2016 at 7:23 AM, robert via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> I have had a boat on the same mooring for approx. 20 years and have
>>> enjoyed the ease (stress free) of coming and going from it, especially
>>> since I do mostly single handed sailing.  However, I am considering getting
>>> a 'slip' at our marina for next season.  There are several currently
>>> available, and with a 'bow in' docking (my preference) I have the choice to
>>> do it from both port or starboard docking.
>>> 
>>> My boat has an 'offset prop shaft' which, I believe, accentuates the prop
>>> walk to port when starting in reverse.
>>> 
>>> So my question is "Is there a preference for either a port or starboard
>>> docking (bow in) with my prop walk situation?"  Reasons why?  Or does it
>>> make any difference?
>>> 
>>> Rob Abbott
>>> AZURA
>>> C&C 32 - 84
>>> Halifax, N.S.
>>> 
>>> 
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>> Message: 6
>> Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2016 08:41:34 -0400
>> From: Gary Russell <captnga...@gmail.com>
>> To: "C&C List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
>> Subject: Re: Stus-List Slip Choice
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>> Hi Rob,
>>    If your prop walks to port as you apply reverse, you want to tie up
>> port to.  That way you can use prop walk to your advantage.  You can
>> approach the dock with a slight angle toward the dock, and with a small
>> burst of reverse to stop the boat, the stern will move to port and snug up
>> against the dock.  When backing out of your slip you should give her a
>> small burst of reverse and immediately shift to neutral.  That will stop
>> the prop walk and allow you to turn whichever direction you want (including
>> straight).
>> 
>> Gary
>> S/V Kaylarah
>> '90 C&C 37+
>> East Greenwich, RI, USA
>> 
>> ~~~~~~~_/)~~~~~~
>> 
>> 
>> On Fri, Oct 21, 2016 at 8:23 AM, robert via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> I have had a boat on the same mooring for approx. 20 years and have
>>> enjoyed the ease (stress free) of coming and going from it, especially
>>> since I do mostly single handed sailing.  However, I am considering getting
>>> a 'slip' at our marina for next season.  There are several currently
>>> available, and with a 'bow in' docking (my preference) I have the choice to
>>> do it from both port or starboard docking.
>>> 
>>> My boat has an 'offset prop shaft' which, I believe, accentuates the prop
>>> walk to port when starting in reverse.
>>> 
>>> So my question is "Is there a preference for either a port or starboard
>>> docking (bow in) with my prop walk situation?"  Reasons why?  Or does it
>>> make any difference?
>>> 
>>> Rob Abbott
>>> AZURA
>>> C&C 32 - 84
>>> Halifax, N.S.
>>> 
>>> 
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>> Message: 7
>> Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2016 08:54:25 -0400
>> From: "Chuck Gilchrest" <csgilchr...@comcast.net>
>> To: <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
>> Subject: Stus-List Possible bargain C&C
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>> 
>> Listers,
>> 
>> I have no affiliation with the seller nor do I know anything about this
>> boat, but I stumbled across this Craigslist listing this morning:
>> 
>> http://southcoast.craigslist.org/boa/5838062124.html
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Even basket case 40' C&Cs don't generally sell this cheap.
>> 
>> Chuck Gilchrest
>> 
>> S/V Half Magic 1983 Landfall 35
>> 
>> Padanaram, MA
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>> Message: 8
>> Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2016 9:11:20 -0400
>> From: Steve Thomas <sthom...@bellnet.ca>
>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> Subject: Re: Stus-List Slip Choice
>> Message-ID: <20161021091120.DYMWN.20687.root@toroondcmxzfep02>
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>> I second Dennis's advice on getting a slip with the dock downwind. A cross 
>> wind will swamp prop walk effects. I docked for many years in a slip in a 
>> river that was always cross current and usually cross winded. Pretty hairy 
>> getting in and out sometimes. 
>> 
>> Steve Thomas
>> C&C27 MKIII 
>> Port Stanley, ON
>> 
>> ---- "Dennis C. via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: 
>> Shouldn't make any difference coming in.  Will have affect leaving the
>> slip.  Are there any considerations when backing out into the fairway or
>> marina?
>> 
>> I'd look more at the prevailing wind and choose the side that is downwind
>> most of the time.  We had a temporary slip in Pensacola with a port side
>> pier.  The wind was almost always blowing us away from the pier.  Pain in
>> the butt to angle in and have crew leap off and secure the boat before the
>> wind blew us into the neighbor's boat.
>> 
>> Personally, my preference is a port side pier because I back in.  Prop walk
>> brings boat to the pier.
>> 
>> Dennis C.
>> Touche' 35-1 #83
>> Mandeville, LA
>> 
>> On Fri, Oct 21, 2016 at 7:23 AM, robert via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> I have had a boat on the same mooring for approx. 20 years and have
>>> enjoyed the ease (stress free) of coming and going from it, especially
>>> since I do mostly single handed sailing.  However, I am considering getting
>>> a 'slip' at our marina for next season.  There are several currently
>>> available, and with a 'bow in' docking (my preference) I have the choice to
>>> do it from both port or starboard docking.
>>> 
>>> My boat has an 'offset prop shaft' which, I believe, accentuates the prop
>>> walk to port when starting in reverse.
>>> 
>>> So my question is "Is there a preference for either a port or starboard
>>> docking (bow in) with my prop walk situation?"  Reasons why?  Or does it
>>> make any difference?
>>> 
>>> Rob Abbott
>>> AZURA
>>> C&C 32 - 84
>>> Halifax, N.S.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> 
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>>> wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to:
>>> https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
>>> 
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>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ------------------------------
>> 
>> Message: 9
>> Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2016 10:13:26 -0300
>> From: robert <robertabb...@eastlink.ca>
>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> Subject: Stus-List Slip Choice
>> Message-ID: <90d1d5a1-63bb-71fe-ce46-962ac9e8f...@eastlink.ca>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed"
>> 
>> A few of the available slips are in a rather confined area when backing 
>> out into the fairway......I am in a slip now that has no restrictions 
>> backing out but this slip belongs to a member who has hauled his 
>> boat......it is prime 'realistate' at our club but I don't expect to get 
>> one of these.
>> 
>> Our marinas (slips) face north-south which is where most of the 
>> prevailing winds come from.....in the Summer, we get more west winds 
>> than easterlies.
>> 
>> If I had a crew member with me, this wouldn't be as much of an issue but 
>> most days I am alone.
>> 
>> I have been coming and going from the slip I am in now alone for almost 
>> a month but there are no restrictions (narrow fairway, etc). I don't 
>> expect to get one of these slips.
>> 
>> Rob Abbott
>> AZURA
>> C&C 32 - 84
>> Halifax, N.S.
>> 
>>> On 2016-10-21 9:41 AM, Dennis C. via CnC-List wrote:
>>> Shouldn't make any difference coming in.  Will have affect leaving the 
>>> slip.  Are there any considerations when backing out into the fairway 
>>> or marina?
>>> 
>>> I'd look more at the prevailing wind and choose the side that is 
>>> downwind most of the time.  We had a temporary slip in Pensacola with 
>>> a port side pier.  The wind was almost always blowing us away from the 
>>> pier. Pain in the butt to angle in and have crew leap off and secure 
>>> the boat before the wind blew us into the neighbor's boat.
>>> 
>>> Personally, my preference is a port side pier because I back in.  Prop 
>>> walk brings boat to the pier.
>>> 
>>> Dennis C.
>>> Touche' 35-1 #83
>>> Mandeville, LA
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Oct 21, 2016 at 7:23 AM, robert via CnC-List 
>>> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>   I have had a boat on the same mooring for approx. 20 years and
>>>   have enjoyed the ease (stress free) of coming and going from it,
>>>   especially since I do mostly single handed sailing. However, I am
>>>   considering getting a 'slip' at our marina for next season.  There
>>>   are several currently available, and with a 'bow in' docking (my
>>>   preference) I have the choice to do it from both port or starboard
>>>   docking.
>>> 
>>>   My boat has an 'offset prop shaft' which, I believe, accentuates
>>>   the prop walk to port when starting in reverse.
>>> 
>>>   So my question is "Is there a preference for either a port or
>>>   starboard docking (bow in) with my prop walk situation?" Reasons
>>>   why?  Or does it make any difference?
>>> 
>>>   Rob Abbott
>>>   AZURA
>>>   C&C 32 - 84
>>>   Halifax, N.S.
>>> 
>>> 
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