Eric…James Bibb here…picked up 34/36 with a dip pole and am contemplating assymetrical conversion. I had a Cal 29 with a bowsprit, since-line furler set up and concur.
Mind sharing more about your set-up? I rarely have 7 people handy enough. NørthWind Architects, LLC James Bibb Principal 126 Seward Street Juneau, AK 99801 p.907.586.6150 ext 205 f.907.586.6181 c.907.321.4265 www.northwindarch.com www.facebook.com/northwindarchitects > On Dec 7, 2016, at 3:52 PM, Eric Baumes via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote: > > I switched to an asymmetrical with a retrofit bow sprit. I'll never gybe a > symmetrical chute again. > > After the first gybe with the new setup, my crew confessed that used to dread > when the boat turned downwind. > > For everything to work well on a dip gybe you need 7. Now I can fly the chute > and gybe with as few as 2 crew. > > In light wind we sail the angle we probably should have sailed with the > symmetrical. In heavy air we can sail pretty deep. > > Eric > > C&C 34/36 > > On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 8:23 AM, Persuasion37 via CnC-List > <cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote: > And that is why I don't race. Great video. > > Mike > PERSUASION > C&C 37 K/CB > Long Sault > > On Dec 6, 2016, at 11:40 PM, Kevin Driscoll via CnC-List > <cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote: > >> That video is an all time classic in my book. I can not believe it doesn't >> have a gazillion views. >> >> >> On Tue, Dec 6, 2016, 6:58 PM John McKay via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com >> <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote: >> Damn Kevin I howled >> >> How often did I hear these conversation the last racing season! >> >> John >> >> >> >> On Tuesday, December 6, 2016 5:40 PM, Kevin Driscoll via CnC-List >> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote: >> >> >> Not sure why the ass end of the boat has so much difficulty following >> instructions: https://youtu.be/4MRunq1y2_A <https://youtu.be/4MRunq1y2_A> >> On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 1:45 PM Nauset Beach via CnC-List >> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote: >> Another aspect of smoother end for end gybes with sheets and guys is having >> the foredeck make certain there is plenty of slack lazy guy at the chain >> plates prior to beginning the maneuver – how much slack is determined >> through practice. When the pole is trimmed back as the boat turns down, and >> then tripped, the spin trimmer controls the kite with both sheets and there >> is no load on the new guy. The mast man / foredeck should be able to drop >> the new guy into the jaw and push the pole out and make it on the mast >> without any real load on the pole via the guy. The guy trimmer only trims >> back the new guy after the call of “Made” is heard from the foredeck, and >> then the spin trimmer eases the weather spin sheet as the new guy is brought >> in. >> >> And of course, the helmsman has to not turn up to the new course until that >> call as well… >> >> All it takes is a lot of practice to get everyone on the same page… ;) >> >> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com >> <mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com>] On Behalf Of Dennis C. via CnC-List >> Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2016 3:04 PM >> To: CnClist <cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> >> Cc: Dennis C. <capt...@gmail.com <mailto:capt...@gmail.com>> >> >> Subject: Re: Stus-List Spinnaker pole handling >> >> Think about it like this, if the center seam on the bottom panel of the >> chute is directly ahead of the boat (centered on the forestay) it is easy to >> move the chute side to side to make the pole on either side. If the center >> seam has prematurely crossed the forestay to the leeward side then the >> foredeck person has to push the sail back to windward to make the pole. >> A simple light air practice exercise is to center the main, steer the boat >> keeping the Windex CENTERED between the tabs and then have the foredeck gybe >> the chute back and forth a few times. Put a piece of tape on the center >> seam of the bottom panel to give a visible reference to the forestay. >> When racing, if the foredeck can complete the gybe and have the pole made on >> the mast while the Windex is still well between the tabs, it should go >> smoothly. The speed of the turn is controlled by the helmsperson! Watch >> the center seam! >> >> Dennis C. >> >> On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 1:30 PM, John McKay via CnC-List >> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote: >> Yikes, and I have been blaming it on the foredeck guys! >> >> On Tuesday, December 6, 2016 12:09 PM, Paul Baker via CnC-List >> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote: >> >> As someone who does the pointy end on multiple racing boats, I fully concur. >> Almost all of the FUBAR kite moments are down to the ham-fisted monkey at >> the blunt end >> Cheers, >> Paul. >> >> 1974 27' MkII >> Sidney, BC. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. 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