Hi Greg,

If you want to spend extra... we used Pilgrim Magmaflow epoxy grout under the frame of the turbogenerater. Excellent flow characteristics if there is an awkward cavity to reach. It might be better than traditional grouts during freeze cycles if there is water present.

A little over done for the job perhaps but you will smile.

        Cheers, Russ
        Sweet 35 mk-1

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I'm loving your input gentleman,

I agree completely. I come from a construction background so plan on using a cement type of mortar used for anchoring large industrial equipment. Once fully cured it has a load rating of 8100 lbs/sq in, doesn't shrink and is unaffected by water. I was certain the loads wouldn't exceed that but wanted to make sure. My plan going forward once excavated was to pour 4-5 " of the mortar to level up the base and then fabricate a steel post with a bottom and top plate with a hole for the forward keel bolt to hold everything in place and then glass in the top. I was tempted to just fill the entire cavity with the mortar and move on but thought the compression post was a better plan.........until I read what your father said. Maybe he's right, top it up and call it a day.

The mortar I plan to use is called Sikagrout 212 but states that after 6" of depth you need an aggregate filler. Maybe something with less weight could be used to retain strength in the grout and filling the cavity would definitely be the way to go.
Thought?

Greg


On Jun 28, 2017, at 7:35 AM, Dave S via CnC-List <<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

Greg - agreed with Russ (and Joe.) When I did mine I briefly went down the calculation rabbit hole, looking at the properties of materials etc and I realized there was no way for me to calculate the hypothetical combined load of keel bolt torque, mast/rig, and one bolt's worth of bashing a rock at 4kts. My brain elected to look at the original construction and make it stronger (compression posts, epoxy, carbon fibre....) and move on to other projects. I used glass and carbon fibre (recommended by the local composites purveyor) instead of AL as others have done, but, same idea. My dad (builder of many boats- now in NS) suggested concrete as fill and he was probably right.

Dave



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Subject: Re: Stus-List 33 mk2 Mast step loads

Hi Dave,

Watch those units.
4000 PSI on a 6" x 8" mast step plane is out of this world for a 33 foot boat. When I did the mast loading while designing the rig of my old 60' cruiser it was 100,000 lbs and he's telling you it's twice that??

I would go with Joe's suggestion of 1/2" aluminum plate and move on to other projects.

        Cheers, Russ
        Sweet 35 mk-1

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Thanks everyone for the info. I spoke with Danny from Klacko spars yesterday and he's certain that he would have installed my original mast in '87. He figures even when falling into a wave with full sails the forces wouldn't exceed 4000 psi. Seems light to me but who am I to argue with him. I thought I notice Mr. Knowles at the club on the weekend so I'll definitely run it past him - thanks for mentioning that.

I have the entire mast step "excavated" to the keel and am starting the rebuild. Can't wait for this one to be finished!

Thanks!
Greg
33 mk2
Halifax

On Jun 27, 2017, at 10:52 AM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List <<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

I used a total of ½â€ aluminum on mine when I rebuilt it. It lookks about 20 times stronger than the original was too.

Joe
Coquina
CC&C 35 MK I
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