A geared folding prop does not have the same problem and is also fast (and a great way to spend another $2000)
Mike Persistence From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2017 11:05 AM To: Dan; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Della Barba, Joe Subject: Re: Stus-List 1986 C&C 44 balsa core isolated or not Looking back, you can check the shaft tube and strut for damage. It could also just be a leaky stuffing box. Going forward, if you persist with the folding prop (I totally hate them but the boat sails faster), if it does not open, STOP RIGHT THEN and fix it before it does some damage. The more you use the boat, the less likely you are to have issues too. Joe Coquina From: Dan [mailto:dgcorm...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2017 10:00 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Cc: Della Barba, Joe <joe.della.ba...@ssa.gov<mailto:joe.della.ba...@ssa.gov>> Subject: Re: Stus-List 1986 C&C 44 balsa core isolated or not Very helpful, thank you so much - and also very scarey... This boat does have a folding prop but it looks brand new. I think this surveyor has more to say but is waiting to get right into the full survey. I did discover that there is about an inch of standing water under the engine and around the prop shaft that could account for the high external meter readings in that area. The area near the bow of the boat is still a mystery. I've learned that all C&C's from this era over 32' have coring below the waterline down to about 12" from the centerline where it becomes solid glass. Hopefully this spot is just a tank and not wet core. Dan On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 10:44 AM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote: Besides for that, I would expect a surveyor to TELL ME things like that, not me tell him! Do note a half-open folding prop can do extensive damage. When my parents had Coquina out in the 1980s they had to do an emergency haul-out because the f%$%^&% Martec stuck half-open and nearly ripped the strut off the boat. I suspect this could be much worse with a diesel on rubber mounts too. Joe Coquina From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com>] On Behalf Of Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2017 8:21 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Cc: Hoyt, Mike <mike.h...@impgroup.com<mailto:mike.h...@impgroup.com>> Subject: Re: Stus-List 1986 C&C 44 balsa core isolated or not The shaft exists the hull thru the Stern Tube. Is possible there was some damage or vibration at some point that created a crack which has likely been repaired since. Normally areas such as stern tube, strut, etc … are solid rather than cored. Find out because is possible is not moisture being read and maybe just an epoxy repair which can read differently on moisture meters… Mike Persistence Halifax From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of William Walker via CnC-List Sent: Monday, July 10, 2017 7:38 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Cc: wwadjo...@aol.com<mailto:wwadjo...@aol.com> Subject: Re: Stus-List 1986 C&C 44 balsa core isolated or not I am shocked too...i think I would be careful answering for him..this is what you pay for... Bill Walker CnC 36 Sent from AOL Mobile Mail ________________________________ On Monday, July 10, 2017 John Irvin via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote: I'm surprised the surveyor doesn't know most of these answers himself. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 10, 2017, at 4:10 PM, Dan via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote: Regarding the 1986 C&C 44 I'm buying: My surveyor got back to me having done only the moisture meter readings on the hull and topsides. The results were not horrific but there are some areas of concern and I have some questions for other C&C owners with Balsa cored boats from around 1986. 1. The surveyor asked if the balsa extends below the water line or is the boat solid glass waterline down? 2. There was a high moisture content found in the bow area, starboard side below the waterline just below the chain locker area. Is there a water tank there or could this be wet balsa? 3. There was a very high moisture content all around the shaft log (where the propeller shaft protrudes) - Does anyone know why that would be? 4. There was slightly elevated moisture around the anchor windlass and foot pedals. Was an electric windlass a standard install on a C&C44 or could this moisture be due to someone cutting a hole themselves without isolating the core? Thanks everyone, sorry, I know this was a little longer but It'd be great to know what I'm dealing with! :) Dan On Sat, Jul 1, 2017 at 11:03 PM, Dan <dgcorm...@gmail.com<mailto:dgcorm...@gmail.com>> wrote: Sorry if this was sent twice - the first time I tried it I was not registered but had no responses... I'm looking at a 1986 C&C 44 to buy. Before I get into paying for a survey to check the core out with a moisture meter I'm wondering if any 44 owners out there have had any problems with wet core? - when you remove through hull fittings is the core isolated with solid glass to prevent egress or can you visibly see the balsa core layer? _______________________________________________ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. 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