I have raced on a boat with Harken windward-sheeting traveler. It was PITA in
light winds.
Leslie.
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On Wed, 7/12/17, Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
Subject: Re: Stus-List traveller track/cars Harken vs others
To: "Dennis C. via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Cc: "Marek Dziedzic" <dziedzi...@hotmail.com>
Date: Wednesday, July 12, 2017, 7:32 PM
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If you decide on Harken,
go for the “windward sheeting” traveler car. As they say
in their ads, once you raced with one, you would never go
back.
If you are cost conscious,
go for Garhauer; there is hardly better value (not to
mention that they usually bend over backwards to accommodate
your needs).
Marek
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From: Dennis C. via
CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2017 18:55
To: CnClist
Cc: Dennis C.
Subject: Re: Stus-List traveller track/cars Harken vs
others
When looking at "ball bearing"
traveler and genoa car systems (as opposed to pin stop or
slide track), design is a factor. While some use T-track,
others use X-track. Some use recirculating ball bearings,
others use wheels.
The design has a LOT to do with how the system handles
loads. I think that's why Harken is so well
regarded. While other brands may be good, my opinion is
Harken's design handles the loads better, and therefore
moves easier than others. Just my opinion.
Whether the ease of movement is worth the price premium,
well, that's your choice.
All I'm saying is look closely at the design.
Find and ask owners of different systems. Hopefully, one
can find owners who have or have had different brands and
systems so you get an apples to apples comparison.
For instance, Touche's Harken traveler seems to
move easier than Touche's Lewmar genoa cars. Just
saying.
Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA
On Wed, Jul 12, 2017
at 7:27 AM, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
wrote:
It is good to remember when
discussing this that Harken track is measured in millimeters
rather than inches (usually 22mm, 27mm, 32mm). Other cars
do not fit
on Harken track properly and likely vice
versa.
I did contact Garhaur about new
genoa lead cars for Persistence on the existing track (22mm
small boat track 3.6m in length). They said they could not
do it
(would not?). Would have had to be
custom.
In the end I came across a good
deal on the mid range genoa cars and track ends (27mm) and
had to purchase separately the aft track ends and new tracks
(the
ones that came with my new gear were only 1m long and I
needed 3.6m). Replaced tracks (PITA) and cars with the new
Harken gear and is more suited to the size and loads on
Persistence. Sold the old tracks and cars to a friend who
is using on his C&C 30.
This brings to mind that I have
two 1 meter Harken low beam non captive ball tracks 27mm
midrange and matching backing plates. These are new and
have never
been installed on a boat but are circa
2009.
Mike
Persistence
Halifax,
NS
http://users.eastlink.ca/~
mhoyt
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On Behalf Of Dennis C. via CnC-List
Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2017 6:00 PM
To: CnClist
Cc: Dennis C.
Subject: Re: Stus-List Traveler for C&C 35 Mk
II
Sean,
I have Lewmar Ocean 1 ball
bearing genoa cars and a Harken traveler. In my opinion,
the Harken is superior. Harken does make a high beam
variable spacing traveler track (Harken R32HB) which may fit
your application. Harken tends to be
a "bit" more pricey, however. Here's a link
to Touche's traveler setup:
https://drive.google.com/open?
id=0B_ sb5TfIENvsX0dGcEV2Mm1QNUE
It has a 4:1 endless
traveler sheet which passes through bulkhead mounted swivel
cam cleats. It can be operated easily from forward or aft
of the traveler.
While I don't have
experience with Garhauer travelers, many on the list speak
highly of them. I have other Garhauer items on my boat and
am positively impressed with them. I have also had
Garhauer make custom items for both my boat and
clients boats. Good stuff.
A traveler that operates
well is, in my opinion, a safety item. Many port/starboard
collisions are partially to blame because a traveler would
not drop quickly or a mainsheet would not release easily.
The port boat was not able to turn
down due to being extremely powered up.
Dennis
C.
Touche' 35-1
#83
Mandeville,
LA
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