Hi all, first time replying to anything here, no idea if I'm doing this right or not. This was our first summer with a 1989 37/40+, it has a Webasto diesel heater mounted in the locker with the engine controls, installed by the previous owner, have never tried it, assuming all works but we have no use for it and will be removing it as soon as I figure out how to tackle it, but was also installed with a separate fuel tank in the same locker, I think it was suppose to be 15 gal but it has its own fill and the tank is also tied into the main fuel fill hose with a shut off valve, I might even consider leaving that tank there as a reserve but no idea yet, anyway it appears it can be done on these boats and once I get the beast out of there I'll be looking to get rid of it if anybody is interested.
Daryl McKelvie S/V Skelly 1989 C&C 37/40+ Sarnia Ontario Canada On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 8:30 AM <cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Send CnC-List mailing list submissions to > cnc-list@cnc-list.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > cnc-list-ow...@cnc-list.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of CnC-List digest..." > Today's Topics: > > 1. 37+ heat (Len Mitchell) > 2. Re: 1980 Water Systems Questions (Michael Brown) > 3. Re: 1980 Water Systems Questions (bwhitmore) > 4. Re: 37+ heat (svpegasus38) > 5. Re: 37+ heat (Josh Muckley) > 6. More Pictures (Randy Stafford) > 7. Re: 37+ heat (Frederick G Street) > 8. Re: C&C 44 twin adjustable backstays (Dan) > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Len Mitchell <xfireca...@gmail.com> > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2017 22:04:00 -0400 > Subject: Stus-List 37+ heat > I am considering some auxiliary heat, either a Dickinson propane fireplace > or a diesel forced air unit like an Espar. I guess I am looking for the > best fit for our 37+ but leaning towards a propane fireplace. Both have > advantages. What do you guys think? > Len Mitchell > Crazy Legs > 1989 37+ > > > Sent from my mobile device. > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Michael Brown <m...@tkg.ca> > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2017 22:19:25 -0400 > Subject: Re: Stus-List 1980 Water Systems Questions > The tanks on my '77 C&C 30 are fiberglass and built with the hull as part > of the tank. The top of the > forward tank is also the base of the V-berth. There are removable round > access ports and a screwed > down access panel on both tanks. > > Michael Brown > Windburn > C&C 30-1 > > > Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2017 20:23:56 -0400 > From: Chad Osmond <c...@wanderinglost.ca> > > I did repair the tanks on our '90 30-2 by drilling out the crack, flame > treatment and GFlex. I repaired it last year and kept the tank full this > year with no issues. > > Chad > > On Aug 28, 2017 8:21 PM, "Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List" < > cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > > > If you look back in the archives, there was discussions on water tanks > > repair within the last 4 weeks. > > > > If you have a leak at the fitting, possibly, you may just need to > replace > > it. > > > > I had some surprisingly good results with a Bondic welding kit. > > > > And yes, most sinks drain directly overboard. > > > > Marek > > > > > > *From: *Chris Hobson via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > > *Sent: *Monday, August 28, 2017 20:07 > > > > Recently filled up the V birth water tank and discovered a slow leak. PO > > left it empty and now I know why. This eventually drained everything > into > > my bilge, as the tank is now empty and the bilge is full. So that needs > to > > be fixed. Has anyone repaired a plastic water tank before, or do you > > typically replace them? it looks like the leak comes from one of the > > fittings fastened to the tank. > > > > Second question which I'm sure most of you could answer, does the sink > in > > the head generally drain into the holding tank or go overboard? from > what I > > can see the sink drains directly into a seacock fastened to the hull. > > > > Chris Hobson > > s/v "Going" > > 1980 C&C 30 MKI > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: bwhitmore <bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net> > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2017 22:26:06 -0400 > Subject: Re: Stus-List 1980 Water Systems Questions > Hi Michael, > > I was going to disagree with you, but I thought back to my 1977 C&C 27 > MKIII, and remember the inside of the tank was smooth and white, rather > than yellowish PTFE like my 1994 C&C 37/40+. > > So, for your application, I was dead wrong. > > I would suspect.a bad fitting rather than a cracked tank. > > Good luck, > > Bruce. > > > > Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone > > -------- Original message -------- > From: Michael Brown via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Date: 8/28/17 10:19 PM (GMT-05:00) > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Cc: Michael Brown <m...@tkg.ca> > Subject: Re: Stus-List 1980 Water Systems Questions > > The tanks on my '77 C&C 30 are fiberglass and built with the hull as part > of the tank. The top of the > forward tank is also the base of the V-berth. There are removable round > access ports and a screwed > down access panel on both tanks. > > Michael Brown > Windburn > C&C 30-1 > > > Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2017 20:23:56 -0400 > From: Chad Osmond <c...@wanderinglost.ca> > > I did repair the tanks on our '90 30-2 by drilling out the crack, flame > treatment and GFlex. I repaired it last year and kept the tank full this > year with no issues. > > Chad > > On Aug 28, 2017 8:21 PM, "Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List" < > cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > > > If you look back in the archives, there was discussions on water tanks > > repair within the last 4 weeks. > > > > If you have a leak at the fitting, possibly, you may just need to > replace > > it. > > > > I had some surprisingly good results with a Bondic welding kit. > > > > And yes, most sinks drain directly overboard. > > > > Marek > > > > > > *From: *Chris Hobson via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > > *Sent: *Monday, August 28, 2017 20:07 > > > > Recently filled up the V birth water tank and discovered a slow leak. PO > > left it empty and now I know why. This eventually drained everything > into > > my bilge, as the tank is now empty and the bilge is full. So that needs > to > > be fixed. Has anyone repaired a plastic water tank before, or do you > > typically replace them? it looks like the leak comes from one of the > > fittings fastened to the tank. > > > > Second question which I'm sure most of you could answer, does the sink > in > > the head generally drain into the holding tank or go overboard? from > what I > > can see the sink drains directly into a seacock fastened to the hull. > > > > Chris Hobson > > s/v "Going" > > 1980 C&C 30 MKI > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: svpegasus38 <svpegasu...@gmail.com> > To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2017 19:55:08 -0700 > Subject: Re: Stus-List 37+ heat > I liked the Wallas furnace I had on Pegasus. Constant even heat. > > > > Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device > Doug Mountjoy > POYC > Pegasus (for sale) > Lf38 > Rebecca Leah LF39 > > -------- Original message -------- > From: Len Mitchell via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Date: 8/28/17 19:04 (GMT-08:00) > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Cc: Len Mitchell <xfireca...@gmail.com> > Subject: Stus-List 37+ heat > > I am considering some auxiliary heat, either a Dickinson propane fireplace > or a diesel forced air unit like an Espar. I guess I am looking for the > best fit for our 37+ but leaning towards a propane fireplace. Both have > advantages. What do you guys think? > Len Mitchell > Crazy Legs > 1989 37+ > > > Sent from my mobile device. > _______________________________________________ > > This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you > wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: > https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > > All Contributions are greatly appreciated! > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Josh Muckley <muckl...@gmail.com> > To: "C&C List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2017 23:25:01 -0400 > Subject: Re: Stus-List 37+ heat > How about the diesel stove/oven combo with heater lid? This would be a > direct replacement for the Force 10 3 burner/oven you probably have. It > would fit in the same footprint. > > - The optional butcher block lid closes and starts a fan which blows air > over the ceramic cook top. The warm discharge air heats the cabin. > - It would allow you to eliminate the explosion hazards of propane. > - It would make availability of fuel much better since it sips only 3 oz > per hour from the boat's diesel fuel tank. > - You could convert your propane locker in to an ice box/cooler for > readily accessible drinks, or maybe a live well, or just simply another > storage compartment. > > http://www.wallas.fi/index.php?id=56 > > It is absolutely what I will buy when I'm out of projects and have too > many boat bucks laying around. As it is now I just don't have very many > situations where I'm on the boat, away from the slip, and it is cold. > While in the slip a little 1500w ceramic heater works pretty good for > heating up the cabin. > > Josh Muckley > S/V Sea Hawk > 1989 C&C 37+ > Solomons, MD > > On Aug 28, 2017 10:04 PM, "Len Mitchell via CnC-List" < > cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > >> I am considering some auxiliary heat, either a Dickinson propane >> fireplace or a diesel forced air unit like an Espar. I guess I am looking >> for the best fit for our 37+ but leaning towards a propane fireplace. Both >> have advantages. What do you guys think? >> Len Mitchell >> Crazy Legs >> 1989 37+ >> >> >> Sent from my mobile device. >> _______________________________________________ >> >> This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you >> wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: >> https://www.paypal.me/stumurray >> >> All Contributions are greatly appreciated! >> > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Randy Stafford <randy.staff...@comcast.net> > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2017 23:50:49 -0600 > Subject: Stus-List More Pictures > Listers- > > With all humility due of a C&C owner :) I’ve added two more pictures of > Grenadine to the end of > https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B-NqAxQ6JxFTVnJfSm9lRnZNa1E. In the > first one, Trish Dishman captured me leaving the Chatfield Marina channel > with Mt. Morrison and a nice thunderhead in the background. The > world-famous Red Rocks Amphitheater sits at the foot of Mt. Morrison (to > the left of Grenadine’s mast). That picture shows how beamy a 30-1 is. In > other words, my girl has a wide midsection. She’s built for comfort *and* > speed. Two Saturday mornings ago I saw 7+ knots on the SailTimer app in 20 > knots apparent wind (close reach). The second picture, also courtesy Trish > Dishman, was on the afternoon I discovered my batteries were dead. But > conditions were perfect for leaving the slip under sail power, so I did. > Colorado Sail and Yacht Club was taking out a Boy Scout troop, so I had > some pressure on :) Even though we’ve only got lakes to sail on in > Colorado, you can see we’ve got some beauty around. > > Cheers, > Randy > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Frederick G Street <f...@postaudio.net> > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2017 07:11:27 -0500 > Subject: Re: Stus-List 37+ heat > It depends on what sort of heat you’re looking for; if you are constantly > in cool, wet conditions and would like to have dry heat throughout the > boat, I’d suggest a diesel forced-air system like the Espar or Webasto. > But these can be expensive to install and maintain. > > If you would just like to take the chill out of the cabin in the morning, > or like a little ambience in the evening, I would highly recommend the > Dickinson propane fireplace. I’ve had one both on my previous boat (1981 > 30mkI) and my current Landfall 38. These are relatively simple and > inexpensive to install; there’s really no maintenance; and the larger > version can throw a lot of heat into the cabin, while using little propane. > > — Fred > > Fred Street -- Minneapolis > S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI > > On Aug 28, 2017, at 9:04 PM, Len Mitchell via CnC-List < > cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > > I am considering some auxiliary heat, either a Dickinson propane fireplace > or a diesel forced air unit like an Espar. I guess I am looking for the > best fit for our 37+ but leaning towards a propane fireplace. Both have > advantages. What do you guys think? > Len Mitchell > Crazy Legs > 1989 37+ > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Dan <dgcorm...@gmail.com> > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2017 09:29:28 -0300 > Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 44 twin adjustable backstays > Thanks everyone, I certainly can't complian about having the option to > make adjustments based on the conditions, I will just need to get used to > it. - I checked my babystay this morning and it has very little tension on > it. I think I'll run it up the track close to the mast to help clear it > from the Genny. If it catches when we tack I'll temporarily disconnect it. > > Thanks again!! > > Dan > > > > On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 5:18 PM, Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List < > cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > >> That’s quite a word of caution. >> >> The other thing you don’t want to do is tack with the babystay on. It >> won’t bring the mast down, but it sure does cause problems. >> >> *From:* Fred Hazzard via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >> *Sent:* Monday, August 28, 2017 4:05 PM >> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com >> *Cc:* Fred Hazzard <fshazz...@gmail.com> >> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List C&C 44 twin adjustable backstays >> >> >> Dan, in the 10 years I've sailed my 44 I have rarely found I need to use >> the running back stays. In those few time I needed them the wind was >> blowing hard and I had a lot of the back stay on to bend the mast to shape >> the main and straighten the forestay. At the same time we were sailing >> into good size waves that caused the mast to pump forward every time we >> bore into one. Remember you will only use one running back at a time. You >> will have to switch sides each time to tack. You can further stabilize the >> mast by using the baby stay, A word of caution, if you have a lot of >> back stay on and a lot of running back on and baby stay on after you have >> dropped the sails be sure to ease the running back, as suddenly releasing >> it can bring the mast down. >> >> Fred Hazzard >> S/V Fury >> C&C 44 >> Portland, Or >> >> >> <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=icon> >> Virus-free. >> www.avast.com >> <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=link> >> >> On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 12:10 PM, Dan via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com >> > wrote: >> >>> I just started sailing Breakaweigh and I've been slightly tensioning the >>> twin adjustable backstays with each tack thinking there is a reason for >>> doing this but it was brought to my attention by a fellow sailor that these >>> extra backstays are not necessarily needed unless I'm running a stay sail >>> or adding some other form of forward tension to the middle of the mast. >>> There is an inner forestay that only goes a short way up the front of the >>> mast and is not meant to be used for a stay sail and I have no spinnaker. I >>> only plan to cruise this on this boat for now and I will be reefing from >>> time to time which could create more force lower on the mast. How important >>> are these adjustable backstays or should I just clip them off to the side >>> and clear them from my everyday rig? >>> >>> Thanks guys, >>> >>> Dan >>> 1986 C&C44 >>> Halifax, NS >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you >>> wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: >>> https://www.paypal.me/stumurray >>> >>> All Contributions are greatly appreciated! >>> >>> >> >> ------------------------------ >> _______________________________________________ >> >> This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. 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