Dave, You're not an unwanted guest. I actually agree with your opinion to some degree. I was walking piers one day and saw a Pearson 365 that belonged to a local sailmaker. The varnished teak toe rails looked amazing. I asked him how many coats of varnish. Answer: 23.
I varnished the teak grate in Touche's head a few years back. Applied in excess of 15 coats, probably more than 20. Sanding between each coat. It looks really good. Philosophically, I liken the Cetol vs varnish decision to that of Awlgrip vs Awlcraft 2000. Awlgrip is harder, probably looks better longer but is harder to apply and repair. For me, the difference is in the sanding between coats. If you want really great varnish, you need to diligently sand between coats. Cetol does not require sanding between coats. Apllying a filler to the bare teak prior to varnish is another difference. Interested in results and experiences with Awlwood. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA On Feb 9, 2018 9:11 AM, "Dave Godwin via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Consider me the unwanted guest at the party on this thread but I won’t use > Cetol. A few reasons. Years ago I redid all the teak trim on my Mako 261. > Fortunately the teak was just aged out. No prior coating that I could > determine. I sanded to bright, applied base coats of light Cetol and then > several coats of their Gloss. It looked okay, but not nearly as nice as a > good varnish job. I figured I could live with that if the maintenance was > substantially less than varnish. > > It didn’t turn out that way. Yes, the Cetol lasted a bit longer than > varnish but not enough to overcome the “look” that IMHO was not as smooth > and deep as varnish. > > Although I haven’t subjected my exterior teak trim on “Ronin” to the > outdoors yet, everything that I have re-varnished, cabin sole included, has > been done with AwlWood. Just from an ease of application (5/6 coats versus > 8-10 for regular varnish) and the deep, clear look it is worth it. > > As an aside, I have a friend with a Tartan 37 who ponied up $4,000 last > year to have a professional crew redo all his exterior teak with Cetol. I > watched the process being done in the yard near my boat. It took every bit > as much time as a varnish job. Yesterday I was on his boat checking it out > for him and I was noting the quality of the finish. Very good but nowhere > near as nice as a well done varnish job. > > And being the contrarian that I can be, next time I have to apply AwlWood, > I’ll spray. > > Best, > Dave Godwin > 1982 C&C 37 - Ronin > Reedville - Chesapeake Bay > Ronin’s Overdue Refit <http://roninrebuild.blogspot.com/> > > On Feb 9, 2018, at 9:10 AM, David via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote: > > So those using Cetol and putting gloss as the last two coats. Is that > for looks? Hardness? Both? > > Thanks in advance. > > David F. Risch > (401) 419-4650 (cell) > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* CnC-List <cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com> on behalf of Dennis C. > via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > *Sent:* Wednesday, February 7, 2018 2:18 PM > *To:* CnClist > *Cc:* Dennis C. > *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Exterior Teak > > I used teak oil on the toe rails of my previous boat. I religiously oiled > them every few months. After a few months, they looked like crap. > > On Touche' I use Cetol. Five coats Cetol Marine followed by three coats > Cetol Gloss. Then a coat of Cetol gloss twice a year. Over ten years in > the Louisiana sun and still looking pretty good. > > I seen dock neighbors use Bristol, teak oil, Semco, etc. For my money and > time, it's Cetol. However, I'd be tempted to look hard at Awlwood. > > Dennis C. > Touche' 35-1 #83 > Mandeville, LA > > On Feb 7, 2018 10:47 AM, "Brien Sadler via CnC-List" < > cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > > My exterior teak is starting to show signs of wear and it's time to > refinish it. It looks as though it has been varnished in the past but was > wondering if anyone has just used teak oil on their exterior wood. Looking > for recommendations. > > Brien Sadler > S/V TAZ > C&C 35-3 > > _______________________________________________ > > Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each > and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - > use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > <https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.paypal.me%2Fstumurray&data=02%7C01%7C%7C0ec419e9fa9849ea57d808d56e5fbc02%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636536279807372804&sdata=5rBM4lZpv854Rhtk5XEeKMHmBgdNHZI1kTpP35LluTw%3D&reserved=0> > > > _______________________________________________ > > Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each > and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - > use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each > and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - > use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > > >
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