Why Sidney when Port Townsend and Port Angeles are a lot closer.\? Alan
On Thu, Apr 5, 2018 at 2:19 PM, Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > I am thinking about taking Alera up to Sidney for her bi annual haul out. > Nothing major, just the usual zinc and bottom paint, etc. > > Any recommendations? > > Tom Buscaglia > S/V Alera > 1990 C&C 37+/40 > Vashon WA > P 206.463.9200 > C 305.409.3660 > > > On Apr 5, 2018, at 12:53 PM, cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com wrote: > > Send CnC-List mailing list submissions to > cnc-list@cnc-list.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__cnc-2Dlist.com_mailman_listinfo_cnc-2Dlist-5Fcnc-2Dlist.com&d=DwMFaQ&c=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI&r=9w3G7Cf8YfQnrjmtuNxwDJYr3JMv9f1pAfgAJ9xXYQQ&m=qTh-0isVG289mFZklKDLdCPHMXvfZrumFyM9LgeNflo&s=Y4jKmKm5khlQIvAiqPRuXToVqOrYrtxU2fI_k_gLU0A&e=> > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > cnc-list-ow...@cnc-list.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of CnC-List digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Marine Batteries (Rod Stright) > 2. Re: Marine Batteries (Marek Dziedzic) > 3. Re: Marine Batteries (Marek Dziedzic) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2018 16:45:52 -0300 > From: "Rod Stright" <strig...@eastlink.ca> > To: <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Subject: Re: Stus-List [EXTERNAL] Re: Marine Batteries > Message-ID: <00d501d3cd16$b4517c10$1cf47430$@eastlink.ca> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Thanks Johns Much appreciated > > > > From: CnC-List <cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com> On Behalf Of Josh Muckley > via CnC-List > Sent: April-05-18 4:38 PM > To: C&C List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Cc: Josh Muckley <muckl...@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: Stus-List [EXTERNAL] Re: Marine Batteries > > > > Rod, that's how the email lists works. > > > > I use Google Gmail message rules to automatically move all > cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com > <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> to a different folder. I also look at emails > in conversation view. I can turn off notifications for the > cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com > <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> folder and when I look at the folder I can > choose to read based on the subject since the whole conversation is shown > as in line item. > > > > If you don't like it make something else and see if you can drum up as > much support or more than the list. > > > > The advantage of email is that it is ubiquitous. No special apps or > hardware platforms. And it is pretty lean on bandwidth for anybody with > slow connections. I like that the messages get pushed to my phone > regardless of whether or not I request them. Even in a no internet service > area I can review emails that were pushed hours ago. > > > > Josh Muckley > > S/V Sea Hawk > > 1989 C&C 37+ > > Solomons, MD > > > > > > > > On Thu, Apr 5, 2018, 3:29 PM Rod Stright via CnC-List < > cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com > <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> > wrote: > > Do we always need to copy everyone on the list about everything. Gets > pretty ridiculous with the number of emails. No wonder people unsubscribe > > > > Rod > > > > From: CnC-List <cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com < > mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com <cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com>> > > On Behalf Of Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List > Sent: April-05-18 3:01 PM > To: 'cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com > <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> ' <cnc-list@cnc-list.com < > mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> > > Cc: Della Barba, Joe <joe.della.ba...@ssa.gov <mailto:Joe.Della.Barba@ssa. > gov <joe.della.ba...@ssa.gov>> > > Subject: Re: Stus-List [EXTERNAL] Re: Marine Batteries > > > > Sams Club had their private label golf carts for $89 each. Like their > AGMs, I think they are Dekas. > > I will one day switch to golf carts when I figure out how to mount them. > They will not fit where I have my batteries now. One nice thing about them > is abuse is not instant death. Mild overcharging can be fixed with water > and mild undercharging will resolve with equalization. Gels never get > better once abused. > > > > Joe > > Coquina > > > > From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com > <cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com>] On Behalf Of Frederick G Street via > CnC-List > Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2018 1:50 PM > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com > <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> > Cc: Frederick G Street > Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Stus-List Marine Batteries > > > > By contrast, my Trojan T105 golf cart batteries run around $150.00 each; a > pair of them has twice the amp-hour capacity at 12 volts as a single Group > 31. I?m on my seventh year with them, and they?re still performing well. > > > Fred Street -- Minneapolis > S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^( > > > > On Apr 5, 2018, at 12:37 PM, Charles Nelson via CnC-List < > cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com > <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> > wrote: > > > > A few years ago I replaced my batteries with Northstar? 31. They were > rated very high, we?re the heaviest #31s (lots of lead) and they claim to > use only ?virgin? lead, not recycled lead, which they claim lasts longer. > Came with a 2 or 3 year full replacement warranty with the remaining 3 or 2 > years out to 5 years prorated. Expensive (~$300 each) but still going after > almost 3 years. > > I mostly club race so I can?t speak to cruising use. They are only on a > charger for a few hours before a race and have never purposely been drawn > down significantly. > > YMMV > > Charlie Nelson > > 1995 C&C 36 XL/kcb > > Water Phantom > > > > > > > <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_ > source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.avast.com_sig-2Demail-3Futm-5Fmedium-3Demail-26utm-5Fsource-3Dlink-26utm-5Fcampaign-3Dsig-2Demail-26utm-5Fcontent-3Demailclient&d=DwMFaQ&c=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI&r=9w3G7Cf8YfQnrjmtuNxwDJYr3JMv9f1pAfgAJ9xXYQQ&m=qTh-0isVG289mFZklKDLdCPHMXvfZrumFyM9LgeNflo&s=KYanbdZ8ZBasZMEDZv56PxFRRz7PiYE07PhtHhJmAbg&e=>> > > > Virus-free. <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_ > source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.avast.com_sig-2Demail-3Futm-5Fmedium-3Demail-26utm-5Fsource-3Dlink-26utm-5Fcampaign-3Dsig-2Demail-26utm-5Fcontent-3Demailclient&d=DwMFaQ&c=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI&r=9w3G7Cf8YfQnrjmtuNxwDJYr3JMv9f1pAfgAJ9xXYQQ&m=qTh-0isVG289mFZklKDLdCPHMXvfZrumFyM9LgeNflo&s=KYanbdZ8ZBasZMEDZv56PxFRRz7PiYE07PhtHhJmAbg&e=>> > www.avast.com > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.avast.com&d=DwMFaQ&c=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI&r=9w3G7Cf8YfQnrjmtuNxwDJYr3JMv9f1pAfgAJ9xXYQQ&m=qTh-0isVG289mFZklKDLdCPHMXvfZrumFyM9LgeNflo&s=KxPR2pYLQlU7QBffsFwXAFY44bpAuYbMrNos0ihtFko&e=> > > _______________________________________________ > > Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. 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And > the batteries vary widely. > > Marek > > Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone. > > > -------- Original message -------- > From: Glen Eddie via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Date: 2018-04-05 13:16 (GMT-05:00) > To: "'cnc-list@cnc-list.com'" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Cc: Glen Eddie <ged...@torkinmanes.com> > Subject: Re: Stus-List Marine Batteries > > Thanks. I have a smart charger on board which analyzes the battery > directly and charges accordingly. I was thinking of going with 2 Group 31 > Lifeline sealed wetted batteries. Thoughts on make/other makes. I checked > out Canadian Tire and my concern is that the warranties are below market > (i.e. 12 months)? > > Glen Eddie > > Tel: 416-777-5357 > > Fax: 1-888-812-2557 > > > Torkin Manes LLP > Barristers & Solicitors > > This email message, and any attachments, is intended only for the named > recipient(s) above and may contain content that is privileged, confidential > and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you have received > this message in error, please notify the sender and delete this email > message. Thank you. > > From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com > <cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com>] On Behalf Of Dreuge via CnC-List > Sent: April-05-18 12:54 PM > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Cc: Dreuge > Subject: Re: Stus-List Marine Batteries > > Multi-phase charging: bulk charge(80%) absorption charge(20%), and float > charge. The values of the charging voltage changes for different phases > but also varies with different type(i.e. Lead-Acis, AGM, Gel). Most > decent battery charges operate via multi-phase and allow one to select the > bank battery type. > > > > - > Paul E. > 1981 C&C 38 Landfall > S/V Johanna Rose > Fort Walton Beach, FL > > http://svjohannarose.blogspot.com/<https://eur03.safelinks. > protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fsvjohannarose. > blogspot.com%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7C47ecd32e63ff4c22473408d59b18e648% > 7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636585453593578485&sdata= > LgzNG1Ec219B%2BVrmWqal5K6OfHRl4nlIGOhN9ECHGNA%3D&reserved=0> > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__svjohannarose.blogspot.com_-253Chttps-3A__eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com_-3Furl-3Dhttp-253A-252F-252Fsvjohannarose.blogspot.com-252F-26data-3D02-257C01-257C-257C47ecd32e63ff4c22473408d59b18e648-257C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa-257C1-257C0-257C636585453593578485-26sdata-3DLgzNG1Ec219B-252BVrmWqal5K6OfHRl4nlIGOhN9ECHGNA-253D-26reserved-3D0-253E&d=DwMFaQ&c=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI&r=9w3G7Cf8YfQnrjmtuNxwDJYr3JMv9f1pAfgAJ9xXYQQ&m=qTh-0isVG289mFZklKDLdCPHMXvfZrumFyM9LgeNflo&s=4nkUl3HLAN1I7uDm4mhvMzwGt6-nxScge-1rzMZWMO8&e=> > > > On Apr 5, 2018, at 11:16 AM, cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com< > mailto:cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com <cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com>> > wrote: > > rom: CnC-List <cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list-bounces@cnc- > list.com <cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com>>> On Behalf Of Neil Andersen via > CnC-List > Sent: Wednesday, April 4, 2018 13:32 > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com > <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>; cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto: > cnc-list@cnc-list.com <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> > Cc: Neil Andersen <neil.eric.ander...@gmail.com<mailto:neil.eric.andersen@ > gmail.com <neil.eric.ander...@gmail.com>>> > Subject: Re: Stus-List Marine Batteries > > What is meant by "charge them properly"? > > Neil Andersen > 20691 Jamieson Rd > Rock Hall, MD 21661 > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list. > com/attachments/20180405/2162abcf/attachment-0001.html > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__cnc-2Dlist.com_pipermail_cnc-2Dlist-5Fcnc-2Dlist.com_attachments_20180405_2162abcf_attachment-2D0001.html&d=DwMFaQ&c=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI&r=9w3G7Cf8YfQnrjmtuNxwDJYr3JMv9f1pAfgAJ9xXYQQ&m=qTh-0isVG289mFZklKDLdCPHMXvfZrumFyM9LgeNflo&s=D-O5z4cPd81cQfWzSj45_nWohWeYU1eJJ-00jiyU_oU&e=> > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2018 19:53:11 +0000 > From: Marek Dziedzic <dziedzi...@hotmail.com> > To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Subject: Re: Stus-List Marine Batteries > Message-ID: > <CY1PR11MB0968D92C26B861452B9D738FCEBB0@CY1PR11MB0968. > namprd11.prod.outlook.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > I would add - temperature compensation. Especially, if you plan to use the > charger when it is hot. > > Marek > Ottawa, on > > > > Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone. > > > -------- Original message -------- > From: Dreuge via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Date: 2018-04-05 12:54 (GMT-05:00) > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Cc: Dreuge <dre...@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: Stus-List Marine Batteries > > Multi-phase charging: bulk charge(80%) absorption charge(20%), and float > charge. The values of the charging voltage changes for different phases > but also varies with different type(i.e. Lead-Acis, AGM, Gel). Most > decent battery charges operate via multi-phase and allow one to select the > bank battery type. > > > > - > Paul E. > 1981 C&C 38 Landfall > S/V Johanna Rose > Fort Walton Beach, FL > > http://svjohannarose.blogspot.com/<https://eur03.safelinks. > protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fsvjohannarose. > blogspot.com%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7C1388a288bd6641d7904708d59b15e0b4% > 7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636585440618114070&sdata= > K1MXpbqPx9HpcSFdd1OWhRgHQsi9W%2FyRy8x5IcHp26I%3D&reserved=0> > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__svjohannarose.blogspot.com_-253Chttps-3A__eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com_-3Furl-3Dhttp-253A-252F-252Fsvjohannarose.blogspot.com-252F-26data-3D02-257C01-257C-257C1388a288bd6641d7904708d59b15e0b4-257C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa-257C1-257C0-257C636585440618114070-26sdata-3DK1MXpbqPx9HpcSFdd1OWhRgHQsi9W-252FyRy8x5IcHp26I-253D-26reserved-3D0-253E&d=DwMFaQ&c=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI&r=9w3G7Cf8YfQnrjmtuNxwDJYr3JMv9f1pAfgAJ9xXYQQ&m=qTh-0isVG289mFZklKDLdCPHMXvfZrumFyM9LgeNflo&s=Tq3iWnCcwboqmHMpU1X6NnWkZCrt9T4kF7_v0fJk6us&e=> > > On Apr 5, 2018, at 11:16 AM, cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com< > mailto:cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com <cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com>> > wrote: > > rom: CnC-List <cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list-bounces@cnc- > list.com <cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com>>> On Behalf Of Neil Andersen via > CnC-List > Sent: Wednesday, April 4, 2018 13:32 > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com > <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>; cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto: > cnc-list@cnc-list.com <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> > Cc: Neil Andersen <neil.eric.ander...@gmail.com<mailto:neil.eric.andersen@ > gmail.com <neil.eric.ander...@gmail.com>>> > Subject: Re: Stus-List Marine Batteries > > What is meant by "charge them properly"? > > Neil Andersen > 20691 Jamieson Rd > Rock Hall, MD 21661 > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list. > com/attachments/20180405/640e08a4/attachment.html > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__cnc-2Dlist.com_pipermail_cnc-2Dlist-5Fcnc-2Dlist.com_attachments_20180405_640e08a4_attachment.html&d=DwMFaQ&c=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI&r=9w3G7Cf8YfQnrjmtuNxwDJYr3JMv9f1pAfgAJ9xXYQQ&m=qTh-0isVG289mFZklKDLdCPHMXvfZrumFyM9LgeNflo&s=FzuZvirfHYfujQDmM6KmoMFQ6wKCHDqcZunoMl3l71w&e=> > > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > CnC-List mailing list > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__cnc-2Dlist.com_mailman_listinfo_cnc-2Dlist-5Fcnc-2Dlist.com&d=DwMFaQ&c=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI&r=9w3G7Cf8YfQnrjmtuNxwDJYr3JMv9f1pAfgAJ9xXYQQ&m=qTh-0isVG289mFZklKDLdCPHMXvfZrumFyM9LgeNflo&s=Y4jKmKm5khlQIvAiqPRuXToVqOrYrtxU2fI_k_gLU0A&e=> > > > ------------------------------ > > End of CnC-List Digest, Vol 147, Issue 22 > ***************************************** > > > _______________________________________________ > > Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. 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