I’m curious. What kind of prop do you have that requires you to slow down to 
get it to open. Most folding ones ask for more speed to get the blades to open. 
Non opening would produce lots of vibration, which would get lots of noise as 
the engine bounces around on (particularly) old motor mounts. Shake the motor.

 

Gary

Flex-o-fold geared

 

From: CnC-List <cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com> On Behalf Of Kevin Paxton via 
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Cc: Kevin Paxton <kpax...@paxdesigns.com>
Subject: Re: Stus-List 3GMF knocking sound

 

Yea I did that today and started it up and it sounded fine. However I didn't 
put it in gear or take it out of the slip. The racor was full and I didn't see 
any water in it either.

 

Now it does vibrate pretty good under operation. I looked at the engine mounts 
though and none seemed to be cracked or anything. What should the mounts 
look/feel like?  How much vibration while running should it have? 

On Sat, May 26, 2018, 6:50 PM Josh Muckley via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

Kevin, 

 

Fill the fuel tank with 6 to 10 gallons of fresh fuel, try it out, and get back 
to us.  Check your racor filter for air.  Low fuel/air in the line/water in the 
line can all cause rough operation.  These Yanmars have a lot of backlash in 
the engine and when you get rough operations the clutch plate springs can bang. 
 If you have a loose/broken/soft engine mount it can allow the engine to bang 
around pretty good too.

 

Josh Muckley 

S/V Sea Hawk 

1989 C&C 37+

Solomons, MD

 

 

On Sat, May 26, 2018, 2:30 PM Kevin Paxton via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

Hey Everyone,

 

Well we were lucky enough to be able to take out our 34 this past Wednesday for 
the Blue Angels show in Annapolis. On our way back our Yanmar 3GMF would 
occasionally make a knocking sound. I'm hoping you guys might know what could 
have caused it.

 

When it happened:

* We were about to enter into the mouth of the Magothy and I was taking down 
the main. My wife had the helm and yelled up saying that something didn't sound 
right with the engine. She throttled down and when I got back everything 
sounded ok. She said that it sounded like it was going to die. Like it was 
running out of fuel.

* We kept it running slowly for a bit without issue. Then I tried to speed us 
up again. After about 5-10 mins it started making the noise again. To me it 
sounded like a loud knocking or banging sound. I immediately reduced power 
again and it immediately went away.

 

Conditions:

* At the time it started occurring we had about 1/8 of a tank of fuel.

* Heavy, choppy waves for a large portion of our trip due to lots of power 
boats. However, at the time it occurred, seas were calm.

* At start up after we sailed for a bit the prop had trouble opening and I had 
to reduce power a couple of times to get it to open. 

 

Observations:

* I didn't see anything incorrect or worrysome during operation. 

* No leaking oil, fuel, or water.

* Racor water separator doesn't show any water in the bowl. A little gunk in 
the bottom but not much.

* When power was reduced, everything sounded normal and operated normal.

 

Thoughts/Questions:

* Could low fuel/dirty fuel/water in fuel make this happen?

* Could this be more of a vibration from the prop not opening properly? If 
that's the case, could it be indicative of something in the strut or cutlass 
bearing? We have in the past had A LOT of problems with the prop not opening. 

* I did notice that during operation on the way back that occasionally the 
undulation of the waves caused some stress. I'm assuming just because of 
stresses on the prop. 

 

Today I filled up the tank and started it up in the slip. It started 
immediately and didn't sound like anything was wrong. I brought the throttle up 
and down and everything sounds absolutely fine. So I'm at a bit of a loss as to 
what to check/do. I do know that I still need to change the oil and I am 
planning on changing the fuel filters as well. 

 

I did notice that I am able to see the notch in the prop shaft where it meets 
the gearbox. There does not seem to be anything on the shaft that would 
indicate that it shifted at all though. Is this normal?

 

Would love some help from some of the yanmar experts on here please.

 

Kevin Paxton

'82 34 #473

Japhys Spirit

Cornfield Creek, Pasadena, MD

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