I thought my 30-2 came equipped with an extendable hose faucet in the head
so you could shower there. There is a shower grate and separate sump and
pump.

I just checked on board and I now have a standard faucet. Was I imagining
things or was there a faucet with a hose that retracted into the locker
under the sink? Can I get a replacement?

Allen Miles
S/v Septima
Hampton, VA

On Wed, Oct 2, 2019 at 4:15 PM Opt online via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Here is a link to the 37+ owners manual.  I kept my navy light housings
> and put in LEDs from Defender
>
> On smelly head, I replaced all my hoses, the head, the anti siphon and the
> y valve.  I put fresh water in every flush using the head sink faucet that
> I replaced with an extendable hose faucet.  Also this device is amazing:
> SeaSmart Marine Marine Toilet Sanitizer
>
>
>
>
> Rich Hulit
>
> Kindred. 1988 37+ wing keel
>
> 917 854-5537
> rhhu...@optonline.net
> Sent from my iPhone please excuse typos
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> >  1.  Smelly head (Blair Clark)
> >  2. Re:  Smelly head (Jeff Helsdingen)
> >  3. Re:  Potable water conservation (Bailey White)
> >  4. Re:  Smelly head (Shawn Wright)
> >  5.  Aqua Signal Lights on a 37+ (Chuck Saur)
> >  6. Re:  Smelly head (David Castor)
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> > Message: 1
> > Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2019 18:52:16 +0000
> > From: Blair Clark <blairalcl...@hotmail.com>
> > To: CNC List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> > Subject: Stus-List Smelly head
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> > I beg patience as i am hoping there is some quick troubleshooting hints
> that can be provided.
> >
> > Purchased a 1990 C&C 34 +. really really happy with boat and currently
> working  through some smaller items to get her up to speed.
> >
> > one of these involves the holding tank. My jabsco manual toilet exits
> through a Y valve to sea or to  holding tank.  No external macerator system
> is in place.. Even when Y valve set to sea I am having a smell go away and
> then return to the head area.
> >
> > Holding tank was pumped before transport after purchase and appears
> close to empty.
> >
> > Steps to date:
> >
> > 1) Had a group out on the boat
> > 2) next day head ines appeared blocked as there was back pressure on
> handle
> > 3) removed lines got shop vacuum cleared lines and flushed with vinegar
> and water
> > 4 thought everything would be good
> > 5) Noticed smell in head
> > 2) noticed back flow of liquid into bowl
> > 3) again fought with stiff lines and replaced joker valve
> > 3) back flow and  Smell went away
> > 4) a few days later after not using boat the smell came back but not
> from toilet bowl
> > 5) noticed that when I opened door under vanity sink bowl in the space
> that houses the holding tank that the smell was more extreme
> > 6) thought of taking tank out to inspect during winter but have no idea
> how to access it to do so.
> >
> > Does anyone have any suggestions as to troubleshoot tsmell, holding tank
> or lines and or remove tank?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Blair
> > C&C 34+
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> > Message: 2
> > Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2019 14:58:42 -0400
> > From: Jeff Helsdingen <onemorej...@gmail.com>
> > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> > Subject: Re: Stus-List Smelly head
> > Message-ID:
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> >
> > Even the good read expensive hose smells bad after a while. If yours is
> > still original it's probably due to be replaced. Possibly the tank as
> well.
> > I've heard it is better to use fresh water from the head faucet to flush
> > rather than sea water too. What we did to get rid of the smells was to
> yank
> > all of it out and go with a composting head. So far so good. Good luck.
> >
> > Jeff
> >
> > On Wed., Oct. 2, 2019, 2:52 p.m. Blair Clark via CnC-List, <
> > cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I beg patience as i am hoping there is some quick troubleshooting hints
> >> that can be provided.
> >>
> >> Purchased a 1990 C&C 34 +. really really happy with boat and currently
> >> working  through some smaller items to get her up to speed.
> >>
> >> one of these involves the holding tank. My jabsco manual toilet exits
> >> through a Y valve to sea or to  holding tank.  No external macerator
> system
> >> is in place.. Even when Y valve set to sea I am having a smell go away
> and
> >> then return to the head area.
> >>
> >> Holding tank was pumped before transport after purchase and appears
> close
> >> to empty.
> >>
> >> Steps to date:
> >>
> >> 1) Had a group out on the boat
> >> 2) next day head ines appeared blocked as there was back pressure on
> handle
> >> 3) removed lines got shop vacuum cleared lines and flushed with vinegar
> >> and water
> >> 4 thought everything would be good
> >> 5) Noticed smell in head
> >> 2) noticed back flow of liquid into bowl
> >> 3) again fought with stiff lines and replaced joker valve
> >> 3) back flow and  Smell went away
> >> 4) a few days later after not using boat the smell came back but not
> from
> >> toilet bowl
> >> 5) noticed that when I opened door under vanity sink bowl in the space
> >> that houses the holding tank that the smell was more extreme
> >> 6) thought of taking tank out to inspect during winter but have no idea
> >> how to access it to do so.
> >>
> >> Does anyone have any suggestions as to troubleshoot tsmell, holding tank
> >> or lines and or remove tank?
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Blair
> >> C&C 34+
> >> _______________________________________________
> >>
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> > Message: 3
> > Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2019 15:29:51 -0400
> > From: Bailey White <bail...@gmail.com>
> > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> > Subject: Re: Stus-List Potable water conservation
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> >
> > I like the Whale Galley Gusher foot pumps because they do conserve water
> > well and are easy to use.  I just replaced the galley sink one that
> looked
> > original (1979) with a new one for something like $90 shipped by Amazon.
> > They work very well and was an easy job.
> >
> > Bailey
> > C&C 36-1
> > Lake Lanier, Georgia
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> > Message: 4
> > Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2019 12:32:51 -0700
> > From: Shawn Wright <shawngwri...@gmail.com>
> > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> > Subject: Re: Stus-List Smelly head
> > Message-ID:
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> >
> > Our 35-2 is similar, even with new hoses and a clean tank. Much of the
> > smell is from organisms in salt water decomposing, as it occurs even when
> > the holding tank is empty. I've been told that adding over sized venting
> > for the holding tank will help, to reduce the anaerobic bacteria which is
> > causing the smell due to lack of oxygen. This is on my list.
> >
> > I suggest flushing some water into your vent line(s) from the outside to
> > ensure they are not plugged. In our case, the tank vent is tied into the
> > anti-siphon (upside-down U) on the bowl flush line, so when flushing,
> some
> > air is being drawn from the tank instead of outside, causing the smell. I
> > plan to add a separate vent for the head flush line to prevent this.
> > --
> > Shawn Wright
> > shawngwri...@gmail.com
> > S/V Callisto, 1974 C&C 35
> > https://www.facebook.com/SVCallisto
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 2, 2019 at 11:59 AM Jeff Helsdingen via CnC-List <
> > cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Even the good read expensive hose smells bad after a while. If yours is
> >> still original it's probably due to be replaced. Possibly the tank as
> well.
> >> I've heard it is better to use fresh water from the head faucet to flush
> >> rather than sea water too. What we did to get rid of the smells was to
> yank
> >> all of it out and go with a composting head. So far so good. Good luck.
> >>
> >> Jeff
> >>
> >> On Wed., Oct. 2, 2019, 2:52 p.m. Blair Clark via CnC-List, <
> >> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I beg patience as i am hoping there is some quick troubleshooting hints
> >>> that can be provided.
> >>>
> >>> Purchased a 1990 C&C 34 +. really really happy with boat and currently
> >>> working  through some smaller items to get her up to speed.
> >>>
> >>> one of these involves the holding tank. My jabsco manual toilet exits
> >>> through a Y valve to sea or to  holding tank.  No external macerator
> system
> >>> is in place.. Even when Y valve set to sea I am having a smell go away
> and
> >>> then return to the head area.
> >>>
> >>> Holding tank was pumped before transport after purchase and appears
> close
> >>> to empty.
> >>>
> >>> Steps to date:
> >>>
> >>> 1) Had a group out on the boat
> >>> 2) next day head ines appeared blocked as there was back pressure on
> >>> handle
> >>> 3) removed lines got shop vacuum cleared lines and flushed with vinegar
> >>> and water
> >>> 4 thought everything would be good
> >>> 5) Noticed smell in head
> >>> 2) noticed back flow of liquid into bowl
> >>> 3) again fought with stiff lines and replaced joker valve
> >>> 3) back flow and  Smell went away
> >>> 4) a few days later after not using boat the smell came back but not
> from
> >>> toilet bowl
> >>> 5) noticed that when I opened door under vanity sink bowl in the space
> >>> that houses the holding tank that the smell was more extreme
> >>> 6) thought of taking tank out to inspect during winter but have no idea
> >>> how to access it to do so.
> >>>
> >>> Does anyone have any suggestions as to troubleshoot tsmell, holding
> tank
> >>> or lines and or remove tank?
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>>
> >>> Blair
> >>> C&C 34+
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>>
> >>> Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions.  Each
> >>> and every one is greatly appreciated.  If you want to support the list
> -
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> >>
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> > Message: 5
> > Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2019 15:38:32 -0400
> > From: Chuck Saur <cssau...@gmail.com>
> > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> > Subject: Stus-List Aqua Signal Lights on a 37+
> > Message-ID:
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> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >
> > I just saw a sale at Defender on replacement lenses for Aqua Signal
> Series
> > 41 side lights and stern light, and might be what I need to replace mine,
> > but am nowhere near the boat to see what model light I have.  I do know
> > they are Aqua Signal brand.  If you have them, is anyone able to check
> the
> > model number for 1990 37/40+ lights?  Would be a great help!!  Thanks!!!!
> >
> > *Chuck Saur*
> >
> > Daydream
> >
> > C&C 37/40+
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> > Message: 6
> > Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2019 12:38:51 -0700
> > From: David Castor <dpcas...@gmail.com>
> > To: "C&C List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> > Subject: Re: Stus-List Smelly head
> > Message-ID:
> >   <caeu_st1crvwvt7amtolj+j5xbem8a+g4b5shymeu9nhxwyr...@mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >
> > I'd suggest Peggy Hall's book on head odors.  Still in print, I think.  I
> > agree with previous comment that stagnant seawater used for flushing can
> > create an incredible foul odor.  Flush some fresh water through the head
> > into the tank. There is a simple test for condition of hoses.  Covered in
> > Peggy's book and in Don Casey's book.    I wouldn't start tearing things
> > out just yet.  But replacing existing hoses can't hurt.  Good luck.
> >
> > Dave Castor
> > Port Angeles, WA
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 2, 2019 at 12:33 PM Shawn Wright via CnC-List <
> > cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Our 35-2 is similar, even with new hoses and a clean tank. Much of the
> >> smell is from organisms in salt water decomposing, as it occurs even
> when
> >> the holding tank is empty. I've been told that adding over sized venting
> >> for the holding tank will help, to reduce the anaerobic bacteria which
> is
> >> causing the smell due to lack of oxygen. This is on my list.
> >>
> >> I suggest flushing some water into your vent line(s) from the outside to
> >> ensure they are not plugged. In our case, the tank vent is tied into the
> >> anti-siphon (upside-down U) on the bowl flush line, so when flushing,
> some
> >> air is being drawn from the tank instead of outside, causing the smell.
> I
> >> plan to add a separate vent for the head flush line to prevent this.
> >> --
> >> Shawn Wright
> >> shawngwri...@gmail.com
> >> S/V Callisto, 1974 C&C 35
> >> https://www.facebook.com/SVCallisto
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, Oct 2, 2019 at 11:59 AM Jeff Helsdingen via CnC-List <
> >> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Even the good read expensive hose smells bad after a while. If yours is
> >>> still original it's probably due to be replaced. Possibly the tank as
> well.
> >>> I've heard it is better to use fresh water from the head faucet to
> flush
> >>> rather than sea water too. What we did to get rid of the smells was to
> yank
> >>> all of it out and go with a composting head. So far so good. Good luck.
> >>>
> >>> Jeff
> >>>
> >>> On Wed., Oct. 2, 2019, 2:52 p.m. Blair Clark via CnC-List, <
> >>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> I beg patience as i am hoping there is some quick troubleshooting
> hints
> >>>> that can be provided.
> >>>>
> >>>> Purchased a 1990 C&C 34 +. really really happy with boat and currently
> >>>> working  through some smaller items to get her up to speed.
> >>>>
> >>>> one of these involves the holding tank. My jabsco manual toilet exits
> >>>> through a Y valve to sea or to  holding tank.  No external macerator
> system
> >>>> is in place.. Even when Y valve set to sea I am having a smell go
> away and
> >>>> then return to the head area.
> >>>>
> >>>> Holding tank was pumped before transport after purchase and appears
> >>>> close to empty.
> >>>>
> >>>> Steps to date:
> >>>>
> >>>> 1) Had a group out on the boat
> >>>> 2) next day head ines appeared blocked as there was back pressure on
> >>>> handle
> >>>> 3) removed lines got shop vacuum cleared lines and flushed with
> vinegar
> >>>> and water
> >>>> 4 thought everything would be good
> >>>> 5) Noticed smell in head
> >>>> 2) noticed back flow of liquid into bowl
> >>>> 3) again fought with stiff lines and replaced joker valve
> >>>> 3) back flow and  Smell went away
> >>>> 4) a few days later after not using boat the smell came back but not
> >>>> from toilet bowl
> >>>> 5) noticed that when I opened door under vanity sink bowl in the space
> >>>> that houses the holding tank that the smell was more extreme
> >>>> 6) thought of taking tank out to inspect during winter but have no
> idea
> >>>> how to access it to do so.
> >>>>
> >>>> Does anyone have any suggestions as to troubleshoot tsmell, holding
> tank
> >>>> or lines and or remove tank?
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks,
> >>>>
> >>>> Blair
> >>>> C&C 34+
> >>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions.
> Each
> >>>> and every one is greatly appreciated.  If you want to support the
> list -
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