Hi Alan,
 
Not sure about a replacement, but my 30-2 has the extendable hose on the head 
faucet exactly as you describe.  Just wanted you to know you are not imagining 
things.
 
Jim Reinardy
C&C 30-2 "Firewater"
Milwaukee WI
 
--------- Original Message --------- Subject: Re: Stus-List 37+ lights and head
From: 'Allen Miles via CnC-List' <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Date: 10/3/19 8:43 am
To: 'CNC' <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Cc: 'Allen Miles' <abmile...@gmail.com>

 I thought my 30-2 came equipped with an extendable hose faucet in the head so 
you could shower there. There is a shower grate and separate sump and pump.  
I just checked on board and I now have a standard faucet. Was I imagining 
things or was there a faucet with a hose that retracted into the locker under 
the sink? Can I get a replacement?
 
Allen Miles
S/v Septima
Hampton, VA


  On Wed, Oct 2, 2019 at 4:15 PM Opt online via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
Here is a link to the 37+ owners manual.  I kept my navy light housings and put 
in LEDs from Defender
 
 On smelly head, I replaced all my hoses, the head, the anti siphon and the y 
valve.  I put fresh water in every flush using the head sink faucet that I 
replaced with an extendable hose faucet.  Also this device is amazing:  
 SeaSmart Marine Marine Toilet Sanitizer
 
 
 
 
 Rich Hulit
 
 Kindred. 1988 37+ wing keel
 
 917 854-5537
 rhhu...@optonline.net
 Sent from my iPhone please excuse typos
 
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 >  3. Re:  Potable water conservation (Bailey White)
 >  4. Re:  Smelly head (Shawn Wright)
 >  5.  Aqua Signal Lights on a 37+ (Chuck Saur)
 >  6. Re:  Smelly head (David Castor)
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 > Message: 1
 > Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2019 18:52:16 +0000
 > From: Blair Clark <blairalcl...@hotmail.com>
 > To: CNC List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
 > Subject: Stus-List Smelly head
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 > I beg patience as i am hoping there is some quick troubleshooting hints that 
 > can be provided.
 > 
 > Purchased a 1990 C&C 34 +. really really happy with boat and currently 
 > working  through some smaller items to get her up to speed.
 > 
 > one of these involves the holding tank. My jabsco manual toilet exits 
 > through a Y valve to sea or to  holding tank.  No external macerator system 
 > is in place.. Even when Y valve set to sea I am having a smell go away and 
 > then return to the head area.
 > 
 > Holding tank was pumped before transport after purchase and appears close to 
 > empty.
 > 
 > Steps to date:
 > 
 > 1) Had a group out on the boat
 > 2) next day head ines appeared blocked as there was back pressure on handle
 > 3) removed lines got shop vacuum cleared lines and flushed with vinegar and 
 > water
 > 4 thought everything would be good
 > 5) Noticed smell in head
 > 2) noticed back flow of liquid into bowl
 > 3) again fought with stiff lines and replaced joker valve
 > 3) back flow and  Smell went away
 > 4) a few days later after not using boat the smell came back but not from 
 > toilet bowl
 > 5) noticed that when I opened door under vanity sink bowl in the space that 
 > houses the holding tank that the smell was more extreme
 > 6) thought of taking tank out to inspect during winter but have no idea how 
 > to access it to do so.
 > 
 > Does anyone have any suggestions as to troubleshoot tsmell, holding tank or 
 > lines and or remove tank?
 > 
 > Thanks,
 > 
 > Blair
 > C&C 34+
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 > Message: 2
 > Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2019 14:58:42 -0400
 > From: Jeff Helsdingen <onemorej...@gmail.com>
 > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
 > Subject: Re: Stus-List Smelly head
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 > 
 > Even the good read expensive hose smells bad after a while. If yours is
 > still original it's probably due to be replaced. Possibly the tank as well.
 > I've heard it is better to use fresh water from the head faucet to flush
 > rather than sea water too. What we did to get rid of the smells was to yank
 > all of it out and go with a composting head. So far so good. Good luck.
 > 
 > Jeff
 > 
 > On Wed., Oct. 2, 2019, 2:52 p.m. Blair Clark via CnC-List, <
 > cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
 > 
 >> I beg patience as i am hoping there is some quick troubleshooting hints
 >> that can be provided.
 >> 
 >> Purchased a 1990 C&C 34 +. really really happy with boat and currently
 >> working  through some smaller items to get her up to speed.
 >> 
 >> one of these involves the holding tank. My jabsco manual toilet exits
 >> through a Y valve to sea or to  holding tank.  No external macerator system
 >> is in place.. Even when Y valve set to sea I am having a smell go away and
 >> then return to the head area.
 >> 
 >> Holding tank was pumped before transport after purchase and appears close
 >> to empty.
 >> 
 >> Steps to date:
 >> 
 >> 1) Had a group out on the boat
 >> 2) next day head ines appeared blocked as there was back pressure on handle
 >> 3) removed lines got shop vacuum cleared lines and flushed with vinegar
 >> and water
 >> 4 thought everything would be good
 >> 5) Noticed smell in head
 >> 2) noticed back flow of liquid into bowl
 >> 3) again fought with stiff lines and replaced joker valve
 >> 3) back flow and  Smell went away
 >> 4) a few days later after not using boat the smell came back but not from
 >> toilet bowl
 >> 5) noticed that when I opened door under vanity sink bowl in the space
 >> that houses the holding tank that the smell was more extreme
 >> 6) thought of taking tank out to inspect during winter but have no idea
 >> how to access it to do so.
 >> 
 >> Does anyone have any suggestions as to troubleshoot tsmell, holding tank
 >> or lines and or remove tank?
 >> 
 >> Thanks,
 >> 
 >> Blair
 >> C&C 34+
 >> _______________________________________________
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 > Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2019 15:29:51 -0400
 > From: Bailey White <bail...@gmail.com>
 > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
 > Subject: Re: Stus-List Potable water conservation
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 > I like the Whale Galley Gusher foot pumps because they do conserve water
 > well and are easy to use.  I just replaced the galley sink one that looked
 > original (1979) with a new one for something like $90 shipped by Amazon.
 > They work very well and was an easy job.
 > 
 > Bailey
 > C&C 36-1
 > Lake Lanier, Georgia
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 > Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2019 12:32:51 -0700
 > From: Shawn Wright <shawngwri...@gmail.com>
 > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
 > Subject: Re: Stus-List Smelly head
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 > 
 > Our 35-2 is similar, even with new hoses and a clean tank. Much of the
 > smell is from organisms in salt water decomposing, as it occurs even when
 > the holding tank is empty. I've been told that adding over sized venting
 > for the holding tank will help, to reduce the anaerobic bacteria which is
 > causing the smell due to lack of oxygen. This is on my list.
 > 
 > I suggest flushing some water into your vent line(s) from the outside to
 > ensure they are not plugged. In our case, the tank vent is tied into the
 > anti-siphon (upside-down U) on the bowl flush line, so when flushing, some
 > air is being drawn from the tank instead of outside, causing the smell. I
 > plan to add a separate vent for the head flush line to prevent this.
 > --
 > Shawn Wright
 > shawngwri...@gmail.com
 > S/V Callisto, 1974 C&C 35
 > https://www.facebook.com/SVCallisto
 > 
 > 
 > On Wed, Oct 2, 2019 at 11:59 AM Jeff Helsdingen via CnC-List <
 > cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
 > 
 >> Even the good read expensive hose smells bad after a while. If yours is
 >> still original it's probably due to be replaced. Possibly the tank as well.
 >> I've heard it is better to use fresh water from the head faucet to flush
 >> rather than sea water too. What we did to get rid of the smells was to yank
 >> all of it out and go with a composting head. So far so good. Good luck.
 >> 
 >> Jeff
 >> 
 >> On Wed., Oct. 2, 2019, 2:52 p.m. Blair Clark via CnC-List, <
 >> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
 >> 
 >>> I beg patience as i am hoping there is some quick troubleshooting hints
 >>> that can be provided.
 >>> 
 >>> Purchased a 1990 C&C 34 +. really really happy with boat and currently
 >>> working  through some smaller items to get her up to speed.
 >>> 
 >>> one of these involves the holding tank. My jabsco manual toilet exits
 >>> through a Y valve to sea or to  holding tank.  No external macerator system
 >>> is in place.. Even when Y valve set to sea I am having a smell go away and
 >>> then return to the head area.
 >>> 
 >>> Holding tank was pumped before transport after purchase and appears close
 >>> to empty.
 >>> 
 >>> Steps to date:
 >>> 
 >>> 1) Had a group out on the boat
 >>> 2) next day head ines appeared blocked as there was back pressure on
 >>> handle
 >>> 3) removed lines got shop vacuum cleared lines and flushed with vinegar
 >>> and water
 >>> 4 thought everything would be good
 >>> 5) Noticed smell in head
 >>> 2) noticed back flow of liquid into bowl
 >>> 3) again fought with stiff lines and replaced joker valve
 >>> 3) back flow and  Smell went away
 >>> 4) a few days later after not using boat the smell came back but not from
 >>> toilet bowl
 >>> 5) noticed that when I opened door under vanity sink bowl in the space
 >>> that houses the holding tank that the smell was more extreme
 >>> 6) thought of taking tank out to inspect during winter but have no idea
 >>> how to access it to do so.
 >>> 
 >>> Does anyone have any suggestions as to troubleshoot tsmell, holding tank
 >>> or lines and or remove tank?
 >>> 
 >>> Thanks,
 >>> 
 >>> Blair
 >>> C&C 34+
 >>> _______________________________________________
 >>> 
 >>> Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions.  Each
 >>> and every one is greatly appreciated.  If you want to support the list -
 >>> use PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
 >>> 
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 > Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2019 15:38:32 -0400
 > From: Chuck Saur <cssau...@gmail.com>
 > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
 > Subject: Stus-List Aqua Signal Lights on a 37+
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 > 
 > I just saw a sale at Defender on replacement lenses for Aqua Signal Series
 > 41 side lights and stern light, and might be what I need to replace mine,
 > but am nowhere near the boat to see what model light I have.  I do know
 > they are Aqua Signal brand.  If you have them, is anyone able to check the
 > model number for 1990 37/40+ lights?  Would be a great help!!  Thanks!!!!
 > 
 > *Chuck Saur*
 > 
 > Daydream
 > 
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 > Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2019 12:38:51 -0700
 > From: David Castor <dpcas...@gmail.com>
 > To: "C&C List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
 > Subject: Re: Stus-List Smelly head
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 > 
 > I'd suggest Peggy Hall's book on head odors.  Still in print, I think.  I
 > agree with previous comment that stagnant seawater used for flushing can
 > create an incredible foul odor.  Flush some fresh water through the head
 > into the tank. There is a simple test for condition of hoses.  Covered in
 > Peggy's book and in Don Casey's book.    I wouldn't start tearing things
 > out just yet.  But replacing existing hoses can't hurt.  Good luck.
 > 
 > Dave Castor
 > Port Angeles, WA
 > 
 > On Wed, Oct 2, 2019 at 12:33 PM Shawn Wright via CnC-List <
 > cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
 > 
 >> Our 35-2 is similar, even with new hoses and a clean tank. Much of the
 >> smell is from organisms in salt water decomposing, as it occurs even when
 >> the holding tank is empty. I've been told that adding over sized venting
 >> for the holding tank will help, to reduce the anaerobic bacteria which is
 >> causing the smell due to lack of oxygen. This is on my list.
 >> 
 >> I suggest flushing some water into your vent line(s) from the outside to
 >> ensure they are not plugged. In our case, the tank vent is tied into the
 >> anti-siphon (upside-down U) on the bowl flush line, so when flushing, some
 >> air is being drawn from the tank instead of outside, causing the smell. I
 >> plan to add a separate vent for the head flush line to prevent this.
 >> --
 >> Shawn Wright
 >> shawngwri...@gmail.com
 >> S/V Callisto, 1974 C&C 35
 >> https://www.facebook.com/SVCallisto
 >> 
 >> 
 >> On Wed, Oct 2, 2019 at 11:59 AM Jeff Helsdingen via CnC-List <
 >> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
 >> 
 >>> Even the good read expensive hose smells bad after a while. If yours is
 >>> still original it's probably due to be replaced. Possibly the tank as well.
 >>> I've heard it is better to use fresh water from the head faucet to flush
 >>> rather than sea water too. What we did to get rid of the smells was to yank
 >>> all of it out and go with a composting head. So far so good. Good luck.
 >>> 
 >>> Jeff
 >>> 
 >>> On Wed., Oct. 2, 2019, 2:52 p.m. Blair Clark via CnC-List, <
 >>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
 >>> 
 >>>> I beg patience as i am hoping there is some quick troubleshooting hints
 >>>> that can be provided.
 >>>> 
 >>>> Purchased a 1990 C&C 34 +. really really happy with boat and currently
 >>>> working  through some smaller items to get her up to speed.
 >>>> 
 >>>> one of these involves the holding tank. My jabsco manual toilet exits
 >>>> through a Y valve to sea or to  holding tank.  No external macerator 
 >>>> system
 >>>> is in place.. Even when Y valve set to sea I am having a smell go away and
 >>>> then return to the head area.
 >>>> 
 >>>> Holding tank was pumped before transport after purchase and appears
 >>>> close to empty.
 >>>> 
 >>>> Steps to date:
 >>>> 
 >>>> 1) Had a group out on the boat
 >>>> 2) next day head ines appeared blocked as there was back pressure on
 >>>> handle
 >>>> 3) removed lines got shop vacuum cleared lines and flushed with vinegar
 >>>> and water
 >>>> 4 thought everything would be good
 >>>> 5) Noticed smell in head
 >>>> 2) noticed back flow of liquid into bowl
 >>>> 3) again fought with stiff lines and replaced joker valve
 >>>> 3) back flow and  Smell went away
 >>>> 4) a few days later after not using boat the smell came back but not
 >>>> from toilet bowl
 >>>> 5) noticed that when I opened door under vanity sink bowl in the space
 >>>> that houses the holding tank that the smell was more extreme
 >>>> 6) thought of taking tank out to inspect during winter but have no idea
 >>>> how to access it to do so.
 >>>> 
 >>>> Does anyone have any suggestions as to troubleshoot tsmell, holding tank
 >>>> or lines and or remove tank?
 >>>> 
 >>>> Thanks,
 >>>> 
 >>>> Blair
 >>>> C&C 34+
 >>>> _______________________________________________
 >>>> 
 >>>> Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions.  Each
 >>>> and every one is greatly appreciated.  If you want to support the list -
 >>>> use PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
 >>>> 
 >>>> _______________________________________________
 >>> 
 >>> Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions.  Each
 >>> and every one is greatly appreciated.  If you want to support the list -
 >>> use PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
 >>> 
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