It’s good to do some some sailing with your crew before entering in a race. Get some friends and maybe their friends and go sailing together and treat your guests to fun on your boat the same as what you would do if racing. If they have fun word will spread and before you know it you will have a crew that have learned together. They will have had practice while having fun sailing and learning your boat for what might be their first time under sail and making some of it happen. Learning. First timers will be keen to go often if the first time is fun.
On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 4:45 PM Charlie Nelson via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > 1+ to Joel's and Andrew's lists. > > Others have mentioned getting friends rather than rock stars--amen to that! > > Also, supply appropriate liquids and lunch if an all day affair and have a > few adult beverages after the racing is done, at the dock or clubhouse. > > Also, treat them to crew tickets to any socials associated with a race, > race often, restrain your comments (beyond no screaming!) to positive ones > even if you have to grind your teeth to do it. > > Most of all, make it a fun event. My crew ALL drive at least 50 miles > (one way) to race (some twice as much) to have a chance to get on the > water, win or lose. Most of them were new to racing when they started and > now I have several crew who have been with me for 10+ years, the newest > member having been with me for about 3 years. Most didn't know a bowline > from sheet when they started! > > Since I need about 6 experienced crew to make the boat competitive (8 is > better), I am often short of crew, sometimes racing with only 5. But even > with 5, we try as hard as we can, and with each crew with multiple > responsibilities, so things sometimes "...go awry..."! > > But hey, its only a sailboat race--- and further, there will always be > another one! > > Charlie Nelson > 1995 C&C 36 XL/kcb > Water Phantom > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Joel Aronson via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > To: cnc-list <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Cc: Joel Aronson <joel.aron...@gmail.com> > Sent: Tue, Dec 17, 2019 1:37 pm > Subject: Re: Stus-List Tips for finding and keeping racing crew > > 1. Don't be a jerk. no one wants to sail with a screamer. > 2. there is no 2. > > On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 1:24 PM Andrew Burton via CnC-List < > cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > > Sail with people you like! > > Let the guys on the bow do the bow; let the guys on the halyards and > sheets do the halyards and sheets. If you’re steering, steer! If they have > a screw up you can be pretty sure they know and equally sure they are > working to fix it. They do t need you to tell them. Ted Turners famous > “C’mon! You guys are making me look bad!” only works for Ted. > > Bring beer enough for everybody the ride in and if the weather is good, > sail in. > > We always got into race mode about half an hour before we got to the > course, but when we finished, the first beer came out immediately and the > conversations started. Not usually about sailing, either. Sometimes we won, > usually we didn’t—it was a tough fleet! But we always went out with the > intention of winning—and enjoying ourselves. Things occasionally got tense, > but not often. And when they did it was me who would mention that “it’s > just a sailboat race, it’s not life!” > We were a tight knit crew but we would always show up at the club after > sailing and hang with other crews. > > Another thing, get the chicks involved. At least two and give them > important positions, don’t just relegate them to the galley or rail. So > what if the jib comes in a hair slower than if some hefty guy was doing the > job if you drive well it won’t matter besides they’re fun to have around > and they like being part of the gang. And on my boat we always seemed to do > better and have more fun with them aboard. > > In the off season we would get together as a crew periodically for drinks > and a meal. One of the best times was a rainy cold Saturday afternoon when > we went bowling—something no one had done more than once—with regulars and > spare crew members all showing up. Most of us needed to take a taxi home! > > Andy > > (Just entering the Alligator/Pungo canal > And looking forward to getting back to > Masquerade in > Oxford, MD) > > > Andrew Burton > 139 Tuckerman Ave > <https://www.google.com/maps/search/139+Tuckerman+Ave+%0D%0A%0D%0A+Middletown,+RI+%0D%0A%0D%0A+USA+02842?entry=gmail&source=g> > > <https://www.google.com/maps/search/139+Tuckerman+Ave+%0D%0A%0D%0A+Middletown,+RI+%0D%0A%0D%0A+USA+02842?entry=gmail&source=g> > Middletown, RI > <https://www.google.com/maps/search/139+Tuckerman+Ave+%0D%0A%0D%0A+Middletown,+RI+%0D%0A%0D%0A+USA+02842?entry=gmail&source=g> > > > <https://www.google.com/maps/search/139+Tuckerman+Ave+%0D%0A%0D%0A+Middletown,+RI+%0D%0A%0D%0A+USA+02842?entry=gmail&source=g> > USA 02842 > <https://www.google.com/maps/search/139+Tuckerman+Ave+%0D%0A%0D%0A+Middletown,+RI+%0D%0A%0D%0A+USA+02842?entry=gmail&source=g> > > +401 965 5260 > https://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/ > > > > On Dec 17, 2019, at 11:26, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List < > cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > > > Great idea. > Also make sure you all have common goals. Having the super-intense rock > star who thinks his whole future career rides on finishing first no matter > what and the guy that wants the crew to give him space to cook a 4 course > dinner on the same boat is not always a good combo. > > > *Joe Della Barba Coquina C&C 35 MK I* > *www.dellabarba.com <http://www.dellabarba.com>* > > > > *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Michael > Dean via CnC-List > *Sent:* Tuesday, December 17, 2019 11:20 AM > *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com > *Cc:* Michael Dean <md...@ca.inter.net> > *Subject:* [EXTERNAL] Re: Stus-List Tips for finding and keeping racing > crew > > I had a crew member who returned to school to work on a Masters degree and > eventually a Ph.D. He became president of the Graduate Students > Association at a local university. > I had an almost unlimited supply of ideal crew members. > > · Graduate students are mostly a good age > · Mostly single > · No children > · Have little money and are therefore around on weekends > · Bond together because they have much in common > · Are often from out-of-town or out-of-country so have few family > activities > > Ph.D students are ideal because they will be around for several years and > often end up doing post-doctoral research. > > M. 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