I wanted to brighten up Touche's head. I covered the aft and outboard bulkheads with a frosty white "Formica equivalent" and painted the inside of the head door with Interlux Brightside Off White or Hatteras White.
See: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B_sb5TfIENvsQk9CUjEzOGJiY3M Like others, I prefer the look of teak elsewhere in the interior. I spent many, many hours sanding and varnishing the interior teak. I did that in 1999. Still looks great today. Note: the veneer in older boats is thicker than in the newer boats. Attempting to sand the interior teak veneer in newer boats is risky. I'd recommend a combination of good teak cleaner and brightener. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA On Sat, Feb 29, 2020 at 5:37 PM Charlie Nelson via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Thanks for your perspectives. > > I admit that I had not considered that freshening up the boat as I planned > would diminish the value--given the sorry state of the water stained teak > my thought was that it would increase the value! > > My thoughts were that something needs done with the current teak in the > boat--especially the main cabin where the water stains are--and that in > order to do the teak with varnish, the stains and the teak really need > cleaned up--far beyond just doing interior varnishing over a previously > varnished teak. My teak was never varnished, only left natural with very > occasional oil rubbed on--maybe twice in 25 years. > > Given the stains, my guess is that cleaning them up for varnish > application would likely double the cost of the refresh since the surface > prep would be extensive and then there are multiple varnish coats to be > addressed. After likely 5+ boat bucks, I am left with a likely very pretty, > shiny AND dark teak interior. I have not been to any boat shows lately, but > all the ads for boats show pictures with light, airy, bright interiors. I > think that might make my 1995 model look more like a 2015 or 2020 model > boat down below, as opposed to a 1985, 1975 or even older boat. Of course, > I could be totally wrong in this since I have only sold ONE boat in my life! > > Painting the faces of the teak doors (both cabin and storage), drawers, > etc. and leaving the remaining teak alone appears to me to keep the cost > reasonable AND add substantial brightness to the cabin. BTW, my head was > finished by the factory in a similar manner--almost all the surfaces are > off-white (Formica or painted wood--not sure)--only the cabinet handles and > trim are teak and it still looks great. > > I am faced with trade-offs of cost vs. change in value (+ or -). I doubt > that any varnish or paint job will add or subtract substantially to the > boat value at sale time--its more a matter of > "...the lesser of two weevils..." to copy from Patrick O'Bryan. If I am > right or even close to it, I need to get the best refresh for the money and > to me that seems like paint vs. varnish--although I still cringe a little > when I think of painting over mostly solid, is seriously stained, teak! > > FWIW, > > Charlie Nelson > 1995 C&C 36 XL/kcb > New Bern, NC > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: David Risch via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Cc: David Risch <davidrisc...@msn.com> > Sent: Sat, Feb 29, 2020 4:51 pm > Subject: Re: Stus-List Interior teak painting > > Charlie, > > On my 1981 40 I painted part of my head and the countertops of the > galley. They were, of all things, teak. > > I would not, however, go to the extreme you speak of unless you are > keeping it forever...to Neals point. > > Sent from my Android. Please forgive typos. Thank you. > > ------------------------------ > *From:* CnC-List <cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com> on behalf of Neil E. > Andersen via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > *Sent:* Saturday, February 29, 2020 2:02:50 PM > *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > *Cc:* Neil E. Andersen <neil.eric.ander...@gmail.com> > *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Interior teak painting > > Charlie, > > Good luck, just realize that your boat value will be diminished. > > Neil > 1982 C&C 32 FoxFire > Rock Hall, MD > > Yacht Broker > > *From:* CnC-List <cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com> *On Behalf Of *Charlie > Nelson via CnC-List > *Sent:* Saturday, February 29, 2020 12:24 PM > *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com > *Cc:* cenel...@aol.com > *Subject:* Stus-List Interior teak painting > > Thanks to all who responded to my email regarding my interior teak water > stains. It certainly would be a big job to remove them and then I would > need to redo all the interior teak with a varnish, etc. > > The result would be spectacular (probably) but in the end I would have a > pretty dark (but shiny!) cabin and be many boat bucks/hours poorer. > > Thus I have decided to go with painting most of the interior teak and just > leaving the teak 'trim' pieces in their original condition (or doing them > with Epiphanes), including the the louvers in the cabin doors and cabinet > doors, etc. This would lighten up and make the cabin look a lot more modern > than redoing all the teak. My 1995 36 XL/kcb has a whole bunch of teak and > teak looking plywood inside!! > > I am thinking of some kind of semi-gloss interior paint that will stand up > to inevitable water leaks with a color that is close to my Corinthian (?) > counter tops. Joe Della Barba evidently used latex semi-gloss in a similar > way for painting water stained teak in his boat's head with success. > > If anyone else who has done something similar or has considered it, I > would appreciate your thoughts on my plans. > > My current thinking is to do the painting as planned and then decide what, > if anything, to do with the remaining teak trim. > > Also, I may paint the interior fiberglass (cabin 'ceiling') to freshen it > up some as well--probably in the same color (off-white). > > Thanks, > > Charlie Nelson > Water Phantom > 1995 C&C XL/kcb > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Della Barba, Joe <joe.della.ba...@ssa.gov> > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Cc: cenel...@aol.com <cenel...@aol.com> > Sent: Thu, Feb 13, 2020 5:35 pm > Subject: Re: Stus-List Interior teak water stains > I was half expecting the paint not to stick, but it did. I sanded a bit > and wiped down with acetone and on it went. Latex is easy to work with as a > winter project, you can leave the heat on and not poison yourself or blow > yourself up. Also very easy to touch up and cheap by boat standards. You do > get a “brushed” look, if you want perfect mirror gloss you probably need a > yacht type enamel. > Joe > Coquina > > *From:* CnC-List <cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com> *On Behalf Of *Charlie > Nelson via CnC-List > *Sent:* Thursday, February 13, 2020 5:15 PM > *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com > *Cc:* cenel...@aol.com > *Subject:* [EXTERNAL] Re: Stus-List Interior teak water stains > > You got me thinking that this may work for me—paint it white except for > teak trim. That might eliminate the stains by painting over them and then > just sand/varnish/cleanup the teak trim. > > Do I need any surface prep on the teak (oiled ~8+ years ago) before I > paint? > Sent from AOL Mobile Mail > Get the new AOL app: mail.mobile.aol.com > > On Tuesday, February 11, 2020, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List < > cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > > > Perhaps not what you want to hear, but I used gloss white latex porch > paint in the head on water stained teak and it worked great. > > > *Joe Della Barba Coquina C&C 35 MK I* > *www.dellabarba.com > <https://protect2.fireeye.com/v1/url?k=0120ba9e-5db6eb3b-012093e9-0cc47adc5e34-ab40597a733eaed3&q=1&e=a0eb7467-fbfd-4830-a935-2ada5f07ad18&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dellabarba.com%2F>* > > > > *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com > <cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com>] *On Behalf Of *Charlie Nelson via > CnC-List > *Sent:* Tuesday, February 11, 2020 5:09 PM > *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com > *Cc:* cenel...@aol.com > *Subject:* [EXTERNAL] Stus-List Interior teak water stains > > My interior teak has never been varnished or polyurethaned (?)--It was > originally oiled and I re-oiled it once or twice many years ago. > > I would like to apply some Epiphanes to all of it--and there is a lot of > it inside my 1995 C&C! However, much of it has 'water stains' from various > leaks over the years--most of which are now sealed. > > My question for the list is how or whether to remove these stains--they > are not like water marks left by a glass on a wooden table. They are mostly > on vertical surfaces and run vertically. There are enough of them to make > sanding them a formidable job so I want to be sure that sanding would be > necessary. > > Some web videos show using heat (iron, blow dryers, etc.) to drive the > remaining water out and make the stain disappear which is easy enough to > try. > > Anyone on the list have suggestions to reduce the scale of this > job--putting several coats of varnish on all of it would be a formidable > job in itself--adding sanding to the surface prep, which I realize is > probably the most important part of the job, could make it virtually > impossible! > > Charlie Nelson > Water Phantom > 1995 C&C XL/kcb > > > _______________________________________________ > > Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each > and every one is greatly appreciated. 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