Hi Randy,

Few years ago we added an A2 on a Facnor furler and and Selden sprit to our 
33-2. We do like it,  easy and safe to use single or shorthanded and my 
girlfriend feels confortable knowing i can manage everything safely by myself 
while she drives the boat.
But if i had to choose again i would go for a sock instead of a furler. That 
would be cheaper and faster in my opinion. It is pretty slow to furl a big asym 
on a rope, maybe the profurl with the plastic balls is faster with a larger 
diameter ? racing i need to plan ahead and start furling early.
Also to consider, on my setup, the tack (furler drum) is fixed on the sprit and 
anyways, the tack and head are on a fixed lenth of torque rope, the tuning is 
limited compared to a free flying sail with a regular adjustable tack line.

On windward/leeward courses, you can't really go straight downwind and usually 
need to jibe and sail longer course that sym spin boats, you can go wing on 
wing in some conditions but it is not ideal. Sometimes a similar boat with a 
big no1 genoa poled out with a whisker pole is almost as fast and correct with 
a better rating.

this year we got a new Symmetrical and i'm getting a carbon pole. it is a more 
complex setup short handed but way more efficient downwind on our displacement 
boat. Something new to learn on our boat!

Food for thought.

Best.

Bruno Lachance
Bécassine, 1987 33-2
New-Richmond, Qc
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Objet : Re: Stus-List Tacking Down an Asym on a 30 MK I

Hi Randy

You may take a rating hit for having a sprit on the boat for this.  The 
measurement will be Total Sprit Length (TSL) and if that exceeds J there is 
usually an adjustment.

Have you considered a symmetrical spinnaker?  The 30 was designed for one and 
the downwind angles would clobber a Ranger 28 flying an asym tacked at bow.

Regards

Mike Hoyt
Persistence
Halifax, NS

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Subject: Stus-List Tacking Down an Asym on a 30 MK I

Listers-

A guy in my yacht club has started an arms race by adding an asym with a 
top-down furler to his Ranger 28.  Wednesday night in light air I beat him to 
the windward mark by a minute or two, then he hoisted his asym and dropped me 
like a bad habit.  He beat me by five minutes corrected time in a one-hour race 
despite spotting me 12 sec/mile with his new adjusted rating (demonstrating yet 
again that ratings don’t necessarily account for performance differences).  It 
was an eye-opening demonstration.

So now I’m thinking I need an asym to compete.  I know a guy who flew one on a 
30 MK I.  He welded a bracket forward of the stem, to fasten a tack line block, 
and had a sock instead of a furler.  If I want to compete with this Ranger 28, 
I’ll have to add two furlers (one on the forestay and one for the asym) to be 
able to set sails as fast as him.  So I can’t just shackle an asym tack line 
block to the spare headsail shackle on the stem, and hoist/douse the asym using 
a sock.  I need a tack point forward of the stem to accommodate a furler.

Thus my question to you listers: any experience with adding a bowsprit or 
bracket etc. to your C&C for tacking down an asymmetrical spinnaker?  I did 
some reading last night on after-market bowsprits (e.g. Selden), but of course 
wanted to check with the collective wisdom on Stu’s list.  Any advice or 
recommendations?

Thanks,
Randy Stafford
S/V Grenadine
C&C 30 MK I #79
Ken Caryl, CO
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