Same as the after filter gage

On Fri, May 29, 2020, 10:42 Wade Glew via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
wrote:

> Can you link me to a pic of what the pre filter vacuum guage might look
> like?
> Wade Oh Boy 33-2
>
> On Fri, May 29, 2020, 9:10 AM Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List, <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> FYI – it doesn’t hurt to use 2 vacuum gauges, one before the filter and
>> one after. I was experiencing high vacuum and shutdowns and after I
>> installed the second gauge, I found high vacuum on BOTH of them. It wasn’t
>> the filter that was clogged, it was the pickup tube in the tank. The
>> filter’s contribution to the problem is the difference between the gauges ;)
>>
>> My clog turned out to be rubber pieces from the fuel fill hose, it was
>> slowly dissolving and dropping bits of rubber into the tank. Sometimes they
>> would suck onto the fuel pickup and sometimes they would drop back off.
>>
>>
>>
>> *Joe Della Barba Coquina C&C 35  MK I*
>>
>> *www.dellabarba.com <http://www.dellabarba.com>*
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Wade
>> Glew via CnC-List
>> *Sent:* Friday, May 29, 2020 9:52 AM
>> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> *Cc:* Wade Glew <wadeg...@gmail.com>
>> *Subject:* [EXTERNAL] Re: Stus-List Diesel Filter
>>
>>
>>
>> thanks for this Josh
>>
>> Wade
>>
>> Oh Boy 33-2
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, May 24, 2020 at 11:16 PM Josh Muckley via CnC-List <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>
>> Wade,
>>
>>
>>
>> Look at the picture of a 500 series racor in the link below.  The factory
>> top has a t handle which is used to tighten the lid.  The vacuum gauge
>> which Joe linked replaces that t-handle.  The t arms are not used to sense
>> pressure - just for tightening the lid.
>>
>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/172954061164
>>
>>
>>
>> BTW: these 500 series are notorious for being easily over tightened which
>> warps the lid and causes leaks.
>>
>>
>>
>> The 500 series is 60gph which would be close to 60 times the flow
>> capacity required for any one of our engines.  Even with a 2 micron filter
>> I would not expect much if any vacuum being formed, though it should be
>> noted that the vacuum represents the effort required to "lift" the fuel out
>> of the tank AND the effort required to suck the fuel through the filter.
>> Yanmar typically rates their engines for up to 10 feet of lift.  Diesel is
>> 34" per psi so 10 feet = ~3.5 psi.  Even with no filter element installed
>> the vacuum  for 10 feet of vertical lift of diesel fuel would amount to 100
>> inH2O, 3.5psia or 7 inHg.
>>
>>
>>
>> Josh Muckley
>>
>> S/V Sea Hawk
>>
>> 1989 C&C 37+
>>
>> Solomons, MD
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, May 24, 2020, 23:03 Wade Glew via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Joe
>>
>> Looking at the guage you've linked to, its obvious the "T" arms go in the
>> fuel line between the Racor and engine. Where does the threaded base of the
>> T go?  What is a normal pressure? What pressure reading makes you decide to
>> change filters?  Are the lined just clamped with small hose clamps or what?
>>
>> Wade
>>
>> Oh Boy 33-2
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, May 24, 2020, 17:15 Joe Della Barba via CnC-List, <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>
>> A vacuum gauge is one of the best cost/benefit ratio improvements you can
>> do. You can save a lot of $$$ in unneeded filter changes and get advanced
>> warning when you do need to change one.
>>
>> Be official:
>>
>>
>> https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=m570.l1313&_nkw=racor+gauge&_sacat=0
>>
>> Cockpit mount with light:
>>
>> https://moyermarine.com/product/vacuum-gauge-kit-gaug_07-1_532/
>> <https://protect2.fireeye.com/v1/url?k=b7f37aed-ea80e98c-b7f3539a-ac1f6b44e86e-4c178e1e039dd85e&q=1&e=7cb8c88e-efc3-44b3-82bf-4503afac93d7&u=https%3A%2F%2Fmoyermarine.com%2Fproduct%2Fvacuum-gauge-kit-gaug_07-1_532%2F>
>> (also can be used for manifold vacuum)
>>
>> Cheap:
>>
>>
>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/2-1-2-Vacuum-Gauge-Chrome-Plated-Steel-Case-1-4-NPT-Lower-Mnt-30-inHg-0/183642544745?hash=item2ac1f2da69:g:2gUAAOSwJiBcQOWz
>>
>>
>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/LIQUID-FILLED-VACUUM-GAUGE-30-0-PSI-2-5-FACE-1-4-NPT-LOWER-MOUNT-WOG/192746480989?hash=item2ce095e55d:g:RiQAAOSwqoxcBW9S
>>
>>
>>
>> Joe Coquina C&C 35 MK I
>>
>>
>>
>> On 5/24/2020 3:39 PM, bwhitmore via CnC-List wrote:
>>
>> Time and again I have read that Yanmar does not recommend a 2/3 micron
>> primary filter.  I therefore use a 10 micron, and use Biobar, as well as
>> some Seafoam.   I have some old crud in my tank, but where I can see it
>> through the hole for the sender, the bits I can see are pretty well stuck
>> to the bottom of the tank (and there are not many of them).  That said, the
>> boat had sat at the dock for +/- 6 years before I got her, and we have run
>> 150 gallons or so of fuel through the boat in the last 4 years.
>>
>>
>>
>> I change my Racor every year, and I used to change the one on the engine
>> every year as well.  This time, I'm going to let the engine mounted one go
>> another year.  We still get a fine layer of black "grit" at the bottom of
>> the racor over the year, but it does not appear to hinder the running of
>> the engine.
>>
>>
>>
>> I'd rather swap out a $20 filter once a year than risk the engine
>> shutting down as I go through a bridge opening with 3 kts. of current.
>>
>>
>>
>> To each their own,
>>
>>
>>
>> Bruce
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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