I've owned a Honda 2 long shaft for a decade now, it powers my 1966 O'Day 
Daysailer, 17' centerboard, quite adequately. Except for replacing the carb, 
it's done me well. Well enough that I bought a Honda 2 short shaft for my 
dinghy to avoid carrying the motor back and forth - $250 used, needed a carb, 
~$65 and easy to replace. Parts for the Honda 2 are still readily available, 
and not ridiculously priced. 

The trick to keeping the carbs going is to drain the gas out before putting it 
away for more than a week. And by drain, I mean open the screw in the carb 
bowl, not just running it out of gas. Takes about 2-3 minutes, with a bit of a 
mess; there's still some gas left (not much) after you run it till it stops. 
It's the alcohol in the gas that gums things up. Using alcohol free gas helps, 
but even then, draining the bowl is a good idea. 

The motors are noisy, I will say that, but they push the dink and even the 
Daysailer just fine. In fact, I once towed Pegathy with the dink powered by the 
Honda 2 when my raw water pump belt failed. That was in the tight quarters, 
ship traffic, and strong currents of the C&D canal which has no place to 
anchor. The stock prop is pitched low enough to pull that off. Couldn't move 
fast, but it kept me out of BIG trouble while we replaced the belt. Always 
carry spare belts.

Dan Sheer
Pegathy - Landfall 38, Rock Creek off the Patapsco


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Today's Topics:

  1. Re:  C&C 32 - toerail bolts (Dave Godwin)
  2. Re:  Outboard motor for dinghy (JP Mail)
  3. Re:  Outboard motor for dinghy (James Hesketh)
  4. Re:  Outboard motor for dinghy (Sylvain Laplante)
  5. Re:  Outboard motor for dinghy (Joe Della Barba)
  6. Re:  Outboard motor for dinghy (Joe Della Barba)
  7.  Two things: (Patrick Wesley)


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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 30 May 2020 15:52:09 -0400
From: Dave Godwin <dave.god...@me.com>
To: C&C List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 32 - toerail bolts
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Adam,

Confirmed. Toe-rail bolts for a 1982 C&C 37? are 1/4?-20.

Regards,
Dave Godwin
1982 C&C 37 - Ronin
Reedville - Chesapeake Bay
Ronin?s Overdue Refit <http://roninrebuild.blogspot.com/>

> On May 30, 2020, at 10:58 AM, Dave Godwin via CnC-List 
> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> 
> Adam,
> 
> I?m 99.999% certain that you will find that your toenail is bolted down using 
> 1/4-20 Phillips Oval Head (machine) screws. Length dependent on your 
> hull/deck joint. IN the U.S. I buy them in bulk from McMaster-Carr. Much 
> cheaper that way. When I was in Melbourne last I didn?t run across any 
> hardware stores so dunno?. ;-)
> 
> I suspect that as I found, 80/85% of all fasteners that I removed from my 
> topsides were that size bolt.
> 
> I?m on my way to my boat to continue working on installing new lifeline 
> stanchions and will measure just to be absolutely sure.
> 
> Stay tuned.
> 
> Regards,
> Dave Godwin
> 1982 C&C 37 - Ronin
> Reedville - Chesapeake Bay
> Ronin?s Overdue Refit <http://roninrebuild.blogspot.com/>
> 
>> On May 30, 2020, at 4:57 AM, Adam Johnson via CnC-List 
>> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello all, 
>> 
>> I am currently stuck in lock down a long way from where my new to me C&C 32 
>> is moored hence seeking information to plan out some spring jobs when I can 
>> finally get back. Leaking toe rail bolts from midships to stern on both 
>> sides, many showing heavy corrosion. Will attempt tightening however some 
>> really need to be replaced. Anyone know the type of bolt used i.e. size, min 
>> length etc and good online source to order from? Assume I'm going to need 
>> 30-40 of them. 
>> 
>> Secondly - assuming i dont lift the rail, any view on best sealant to use on 
>> new bolts going in or for those needing some new sealant? I have sourced 
>> some butyl tape from maine sail in the US plus have access to sika products 
>> here.
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> 
>> Adam Johnson
>> '84 C&C 32 
>> Melbourne, Australia
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Date: Sat, 30 May 2020 18:52:02 -0400
From: JP Mail <jon.peterpr...@gmail.com>
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Outboard motor for dinghy
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I removed and cleaned the carb on our mercury 2.5 / 4 stroke. It runs and idles 
fine but will only rev about half way. I bought a rebuild kit and installed. 
Same. Ordered new carb. 
I think all the small engines are Chinese. And a lot are the same except 
badging and plastic. Like Home Depot lawn tractors. 
Jon

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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 30 May 2020 19:04:29 -0400
From: James Hesketh <jameshesk...@gmail.com>
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Outboard motor for dinghy
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I've just recently been offered a 5hp (with clutch) short-shaft British
Seagull.

The price is right -- free -- but, but, but, ???

Jim Hesketh
C&C 26 Whisper
Miami, FL
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Date: Sat, 30 May 2020 23:16:56 +0000 (UTC)
From: Sylvain Laplante <sylvain_lapla...@yahoo.ca>
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Outboard motor for dinghy
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 Humm...? :-)
>From their website ( "its time" actually is 1931 ) :
For its time the original engine was very advanced, a good proportion of the 
original engines are still running and parts are generally still available to 
keep them that way - a truly unique engine, a magnificent piece of British 
engineering and ingenuity.
Sylvain ( with an A4? :-)? )

    Le samedi 30 mai 2020 19 h 05 min 25 s HAE, James Hesketh via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com> a ?crit :  
 
 

I've just recently been offered a 5hp (with clutch) short-shaft British 
Seagull. 

The price is right -- free -- but, but, but, ???
Jim HeskethC&C 26 WhisperMiami, FL


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Date: Sat, 30 May 2020 19:17:06 -0400
From: Joe Della Barba <j...@dellabarba.com>
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Outboard motor for dinghy
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WAY too much!

Joe

Coquina

On 5/30/2020 7:04 PM, James Hesketh via CnC-List wrote:
>
>
> I've just recently been offered a 5hp (with clutch) short-shaft 
> British Seagull.
>
> The price is right -- free -- but, but, but, ???
>
> Jim Hesketh
> C&C 26 Whisper
> Miami, FL
>
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Date: Sat, 30 May 2020 19:21:54 -0400
From: Joe Della Barba <j...@dellabarba.com>
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Outboard motor for dinghy
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I actually had one for years. NO WAY would I even think about getting 
near one again. To stat with, the 10:1 mix of gas and 30 weight motor 
oil made a nasty mess and it was famous for not starting at random times.

Joe

Coquina

On 5/30/2020 7:16 PM, Sylvain Laplante via CnC-List wrote:
> Humm...? :-)
>
> From their website ( "its time" actually is 1931 ) :
>
> For its time the original engine was very advanced, a good proportion 
> of the original engines are still running and parts are generally 
> still available to keep them that way - a truly unique engine, a 
> magnificent piece of British engineering and ingenuity.
>
> Sylvain ( with an A4 :-)? )
>
>
> Le samedi 30 mai 2020 19 h 05 min 25 s HAE, James Hesketh via CnC-List 
> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> a ?crit :
>
>
>
>
> I've just recently been offered a 5hp (with clutch) short-shaft 
> British Seagull.
>
> The price is right -- free -- but, but, but, ???
>
> Jim Hesketh
> C&C 26 Whisper
> Miami, FL
>
>
>
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Message: 7
Date: Sun, 31 May 2020 00:12:00 -0000
From: Patrick Wesley <hickl...@icloud.com>
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List Two things:
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I've just sold my 1983 24 Mk II, thanks for several responses re the sale 
process. So this will be my last or close-to-last posting. By the way, I did 
mention this list to the purchaser, having often found it to be of use or 
amusement over the years.


The other thing is, many years ago, in the flush of new ownership I bought 
something that was no doubt a good purchase, but for a boat with a crew of 
about 6 people. It is called a Morlift. The idea is that if you have a MOB 
(should that be Person Overboard these days) one recovery method is to lower 
the jib into the water, move the MOB into the sling thereby created and hoist 
them out on the halyard winch. The trouble apparently is the difficulty of 
stopping them sliding back into the water when the water runs out of the sail.


Enter the Morlift which has a mesh that lets the water run out out. Well made, 
as I recall in Nova Scotia. However when my buddy and I tried it at the dock we 
quickly figured out that you would have to have the aforementioned crew of 
maybe six people.


My purchaser did not want it and the Victoria Maritime Museum used equipment 
store which supplies funds to it is closed because of COVID. Is there anyone?in 
legal range of Victoria, BC who could use it and could be relied upon to pick 
it up for free at the time and day agreed??


Regards, Patrick Wesley



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