Thank you Edd. You (among others) have convinced me to scrap the idea of a rebuild. I was focused on getting a boat which had a engine that I don’t have to worry about. The Beta seems like a great solution for roughly the same cost of the rebuild. There are a lot of fans of the Beta out there which is reassuring.
In an effort to salvage my season, I am going to try to resolve the overheating issue without pulling the engine, which will give me a little more time to ponder and shop for a permanent replacement solution. I haven’t given up the electric solution but do respect and understand that the pitfalls are not insignificant and that I may have to wait until the technology gets there…if I need to replace it before a viable solution is available (which may be next week), the Beta is likely the way I’ll go. Thank you for taking the time to respond to my question. -Chandler From: Edd Schillay <e...@schillay.com> Sent: Monday, August 10, 2020 5:14 PM To: Edd Schillay via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Subject: Re: Stus-List Repowering a C&C 36 to Electric? Chandler, Welcome to the list and congratulations on your new boat. While electric may be the more “green” way to go in the long (really long) run, in my opinion, don’t do it. Between the cost of an electric motor that’s big enough, removing the fuel tank, and purchasing the many (MANY) lithium batteries to drive it, you will find the cost overwhelming. Pushing a C&C 36, especially through some chop, takes a lot of juice. When you’re at the dock, shore power could top you off, but I don’t think any solar or wind generator would keep up with the demand. Do your research. While it may be good for a boat in the 20-30 ft range, I just don’t think we are there yet technology-wise for heavier displacement boats. So on to the diesel. For the most part, diesel engines are pretty easy to maintain — just keep to a schedule of oil changes, filter changes strainer cleaning, impeller checks, etc. There’s plenty of literature and videos on YouTube on maintaining your engine. Yes, problems can occur, but mechanics are also very easy to find. Suggest you do not do a rebuild or buy someone’s rebuilt engine. In my research, I have found that rebuilds aren’t always to spec and you’re just buying what could be a temporary band-aid. Instead, consider a repower with a brand new engine. You could spend big bucks on a replacement Yanmar, but odds are you’ll save a ton with a Beta with the same mounts — which is a marine-ized Kubota engine. And I also suggest keeping the current shaft/prop configuration. I did a repower in 2015 from a Universal M35 to a Beta 30. Been great. All the best, Edd Edd M. Schillay Captain of the Starship Enterprise C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log <http://enterpriseb.blogspot.com/> On Aug 10, 2020, at 4:54 PM, Fitteral Mindspring via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote: Hello all, I am on the precipice of being C&C owner and already have a question (actually several). I am purchasing a 1981 C&C 36 which has a sound hull, deck, sails but has the original Yanmar 3GM30 which is overheating and, at a very minimum, needs a new head gasket. Additionally the transmission is a little suspect so I am pursuing my options, one of which is an electric repower/conversion. The quiet, green, instant start and low/no maintenance aspects are all enticing to me. Additionally, the thought of investing a chunk of change on a rebuild of a 40 yr old engine and transmission isn’t terribly appealing to me. Another aspect of this is, that while I know a bit about engines, don’t have any experience working with marine diesels. While I am always interested in learning, I feel that marine diesels is perhaps a learning rabbit-hole I could avoid. I currently have a smaller (Chrysler 22') boat and am purchasing this boat with the anticipation to take longer day sails, weekend cruises and an occasional longer close-ish to shore trip (no plans for open ocean passages at this time). I do intend to stay under sail whenever possible. I currently have a slip so will have access to shore power when at home, however this may not always be the case on longer trips. I am exploring solar, regen & a portable supplemental generator for re-charging while underway. The C&C 36 currently has navigation, radar, miscellaneous electronics which we need powered. No A/C or heat on the boat nor anticipation of installing them. There is a hot water heater which is currently heated by the diesel engine so would need to convert that to keep the Admiral happy. Looking to see if anyone out there has considered and/or attempted this conversion and would like to get your thoughts and experiences. One of the primary questions (beyond whether I should attempt it at all) is whether to go with a SailDrive or simply drive the existing shaft/prop with the electric. Also, if anyone recommendations for installers in the CT/NY area. The boat is in CT and I am based in NY. I could potentially do it myself since my season is likely shot but wanted to get some configurations/estimates from installers from which I could potentially use to derive configuration ideas. Apologies for the long-winded, multi-part, question but it’s a relatively big decision. Thank you in advance, Chandler Rohal TBD C&C 36 Rockaway Park, NY _______________________________________________ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- <https://www.paypal.me/stumurray> https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
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