I purchased something similar to this: https://www.ebay.com/itm/124241193190
but for a LOT less money, about the cost of a bosun's chair.  Mine has the 
climbing harness, a sewn strap that connects hands to feet, a pair of petzel 
ascenders and possibly a carabiner or two.

The frog system is the method of ascending/descending.  Basically, stand on 
left foot, raise right hand & foot together (right foot strap comes up with 
hand). Stand on now raised right foot and repeat for left side.  To descend, 
you control the rate of descent.  To be fair, I've never used it to climb the 
mast, just a test climb at a barn with a rock climber to understand how it all 
works.  One fear is that you would twist around the line being climbed.  Wear a 
helmet!!

Bob

>     On 01/24/2021 10:25 AM Dave S via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>      
>      
>     Hi Marek - have found the hoisting of my not quite 100kg to be a lot as 
> well.     I’m not at all happy that I have the ascent sorted as well as I 
> should - needs to be simple and safe.
>     Could you share Some detail or reference material on the ascenders you 
> use and the technique?
> 
>     Thanks, Dave 
>     33-2 windstar.
>     April 28 launch!
> 
>     Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
>         > > On Jan 24, 2021, at 9:31 AM, Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List 
> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> > 
> > 
> >     > 
>         > > 
> >         I don’t believe in hoisting people up. You have to climb up, with 
> > the line used mainly as  safety.
> > 
> >         When I go up, I use a pair of ascenders on one halyard and have 
> > someone at the winch using the second halyard for safety. If I have to do 
> > it alone (and I often do), I use a third ascender on the second halyard.
> > 
> >         Cranking up 100 kg of dead weight up the mast is a very tough job 
> > that I don’t wish on anyone (so I don’t ask anyone to do it). Your legs are 
> > much stronger than arms (at least mine are).
> > 
> >          
> > 
> >         Marek
> > 
> >         1994 C270 Legato
> > 
> >         Ottawa, ON
> > 
> >          
> > 
> >         From: Adam Hayden via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> >         Sent: January 24, 2021 8:32
> >         To: Stus-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> >         Cc: CHARLES SCHEAFFER <cscheaf...@comcast.net>; Adam Hayden 
> > <hayden.a...@hotmail.com>
> >         Subject: Stus-List Re: Winch bit
> > 
> >          
> > 
> >         Chuck
> > 
> >         Wouldn't it take as much effort to hoist the bag of chain up as to 
> > hoist  a person up?    I would do the same and use a corded drill 
> > alongside. 
> > 
> >         Adam
> > 
> >         Sent from my Bell Samsung device over Canada’s largest network.
> > 
> >          
> > 
> > 
> >         ---------------------------------------------
> > 
> >         From: CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
> > mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com >
> >         Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2021 12:49:28 AM
> >         To: Stus-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com >
> >         Cc: CHARLES SCHEAFFER <cscheaf...@comcast.net 
> > mailto:cscheaf...@comcast.net >
> >         Subject: Stus-List Re: Winch bit
> > 
> >          
> > 
> >         Found "The Cranker" bit for $40. 
> > 
> >         https://www.thecranker.com/#_What_is_%E2%80%A6? 
> > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.thecranker.com%2F%23_What_is_%25E2%2580%25A6%3F&data=04%7C01%7C%7Ccd971060ac944df5a55a08d8c06c8235%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637470919559431177%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=NShBOrMVZV8atunGViroXV2%2FzT0zbncXedVXsiIP1IQ%3D&reserved=0
> > 
> >          
> > 
> >         Never tried one but it looks worth having the bit.
> > 
> >         I'd rather do this at the dock and use a corded angle drill like 
> > 
> >         this $150 one from Harbor Freight
> > 
> >         
> > https://www.harborfreight.com/13-amp-2-speed-12-in-heavy-duty-right-angle-drill-kit-64121.html
> >  
> > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.harborfreight.com%2F13-amp-2-speed-12-in-heavy-duty-right-angle-drill-kit-64121.html&data=04%7C01%7C%7Ccd971060ac944df5a55a08d8c06c8235%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637470919559431177%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=h1xMsyGLRTkWajfsgnaz77C31od2BMJskzIS5D8fRKk%3D&reserved=0
> > 
> >          
> > 
> >         Or rig up an electric winch at the base of the mast with a remote 
> > control.
> > 
> >          
> > 
> >         Or hoist a duffelbag full of anchor chain weighing the same weight 
> > of the climber to the mast head and then use that to neutralize the 
> > climber's weight so he can scamper on up at his leisure.  Never tried it 
> > but read it somewhere.
> > 
> >          
> > 
> >         Chuck S 
> > 
> >             > > > 
> > >             On 01/23/2021 10:35 PM ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List 
> > > <cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com > wrote:
> > > 
> > >              
> > > 
> > >              
> > > 
> > >             I used a friend's bit and 1/2" right angled drill to hoist me 
> > > up the mast. I was able to get almost all the way up on a full charge. 
> > > Works great, but if I couldn't borrow the drill and bit, I wouldn't buy 
> > > one just for that purpose.
> > > 
> > >              
> > > 
> > >             Alan Bergen
> > > 
> > >             35 Mk III Thirsty
> > > 
> > >             Rose City YC
> > > 
> > >             Portland, OR
> > > 
> > >              
> > > 
> > >             On Sat, Jan 23, 2021 at 4:57 PM Adam Hayden via CnC-List < 
> > > cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com > wrote:
> > > 
> > >                 > > > > 
> > > >                 Have any of you used the winch bit and a cordless drill 
> > > > for either hoisting someone aloft or for raising sails?  I came across 
> > > > it in a forum and it seemed like a good idea.  Not sure if it is just 
> > > > gimmicky or if it really works?
> > > > 
> > > >                 Adam
> > > > 
> > > >                 C&C 36
> > > > 
> > > >                  
> > > > 
> > > >                  
> > > > 
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